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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Disagree. Stay stupid and offensive things, get canceled. That’s known as a natural consequence.[/quote] "Stupid and offensive" might be read instead to mean "I don't agree, I don't like it, I don't understand it, I don't want to try to understand why others might think like that, and consequently nobody should be able to articulate it or try to make a case for it. They must be silenced at all costs lest their pernicious position be heard by those too unwise to be able to decide for themselves whether it is reasonable, makes sense, is potentially actually valid". [/quote] Wait -- this is about the Florida bill banning teachers from mentioning that families like mine exist, right? That's the kind of suppression of free speech that you are opposed to, right?[/quote] There is no such bill. Talk about propaganda. The bill simply prevents[b] instruction[/b] of gender identity in grades K-3. That's it. No one cares if your kid has two dads/moms, or if the teacher is LGBTQ. No one. But keep on frothing at the mouth about idiotic, non-existent "suppression." DP[/quote] [b]So how exactly does this work then, when kids in those grades are learning about their identity?[/b] I my DC’s school, they have units on identity starting in K, as a way to start teaching the child about their broader place in the world. How they define themselves, their family, etc. (I am a sister, I am a daughter, I am a Washingtonian, I am an American, etc.) so when they talk about their family, and let’s say they have 2 moms, they how does this continue without being able to explain (i.e. “instruct”) that some families are made up of 2 same sex parents? I mean, the kids of divorced parents, or intact m/f parents, or even kids living with grandparents can all discuss this openly. I’m just not sure how this works if you can’t teach the kids what it means.[/quote] The Florida bill is flawed but OPs point is that it is worthwhile to have in depth conversations on these topics without silencing viewpoints by labeling them offensive or bigoted. My opinion is that most Americans believe that there is a significant difference between a teacher saying that student Larla has two moms and a teacher telling 6 year old Larla that she can decide to be either a boy or a girl or both or neither. [/quote] You parent your child, try it sometime. [/quote]
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