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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Seeing some of those low scores (that were surely not submitted) made me feel better in some ways (but worse in others). But at least proof that not every kid has a 1450+ like is seemingly claimed on here. [/quote]

It also depends on the high school in question.  Some high schools have much higher stats.[/quote]

It pisses me off scores aren’t required.  So many kids with every advantage in the world (not the students that taking away scores was supposed to help) are now clogging admissions and applying places they never would have ever considered if they had to submit that low score.  [/quote]

Yah.  Bummer your kid blew all of that time and money prepping and studying while others did something more fun/valuable.  Tests are done.  No one cares anymore.  Your little Prep machine will need to find some other formula.[/quote]

Smart people don’t need prep.  His first mock ACT was a 35.[/quote]

The SAT and ACT are NOT intelligences tests.  Your kid is obviously very smart, but I bet you're UMC and that has a big impact on scores.  Kids who are just as naturally smart as your kid but raised in a moderate or lower middle class home, attend a non-rigorous school, have non-English speaking parents, etc. will score lower. [/quote]

What I've seen is in schools in wealthy areas the URMs come from an identical background, some even wealthier than many of the non-represented families.  Their kids greatly benefit from this and will gain admission with lower scores/gpa.  It is really frustrating for kids that worked right alongside these peers their entire childhood to see kids with at times a full point lower GPA and lower scores gain admission.

It's just the way it is.  It would be admirable if the system worked and benefited those that really were at risk and disadvantaged, but it doesn't.  Those kids are in areas where people aren't even applying to college, much less top colleges.  Then, you have the issue if these kids get in they are not prepared at all for the rigors of the university because of their dismal public schools.[/quote]

Well, I don't know where you've "seen" but by and large what you've described isn't the case.  Certainly not at this high school, where it is definitely not the case that the URMs here come from "identical" backgrounds as the white kids.  The white kids here are definitely wealthier on average. [/quote]

Two of the wealthiest families in our hood are 'URM'.  I'm talking $$$$$$$$$.  Many multi-cultural families choosing the side that is not white on the application.  But, I'm sure when you look at the kid you are basing it on their 'appearance'.[/quote]

Don't hate on them. They are just answering the question truthfully. Are you black or Hispanic? My kid is half Hispanic so he checked the Hispanic box. It is what he is. If colleges want to view him differently, fine, but don't blame him for giving them truthful information. Colleges are dumb. They can easily look up a kid's address and their school and their financial info to see if they are poor and black/Hispanic, etc. All it takes it a quick Google search if they really want to know.[/quote]

I think you mean 'colleges aren't dumb'.  If they can get more to fill their quota and make them look ultra diverse as they are all racing to prove they can have the least legacy and most URM and first gen students these past few years---why would they do the work to look it up?  Princeton is at 68% URM.[/quote]

No, it’s not.[/quote]

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