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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s always a crapshoot. Not much difference from last year at our school. [/quote] For mediocre applicants, it’s indeed a crapshoot. But not for top achievers.[/quote] Yes it is for high achievers, the ones who would easily have gotten a place at a T20 university a few years back. The very top achievers (#1 in their class with extremely rigorous courseload) and top recruited athletes will get a spot at a T20. But the average high achievers with excellent grades and test scores, but no real hook are now having to settle at least one or two rungs down from schools they would have gained admittance too fairly recently. A kid at DD's high school who had a 3.89 uw and 1580 SAT got rejected from his mom's Ivy. My DD was astonished by this, and so was this kid and his parents. But these things are common these days. The kid is going to USC. [/quote] Frankly, a kid with a 3.89 had a few Bs and probably should not have gotten in to an Ivy just because his mother attended. I'm sure there were plenty of more qualified kids at his school. plus USC is a great school. this is actually the system working exactly as it should, IMO. [/quote] You realize “a few Bs” could mean 1-2 points or ONE quiz difference between the kid with the B and the kid with the A. And the kid with the B may have taken harder classes. This is wholly off point to the thread but these kinds of statements drive me crazy and feed into much artificial stress teens today are under. This kid is just as smart and as hard a worker as the person sitting next to him with the 4.0. Just like it is silly to parse between a 1530 and 1580, and “one sitting” v two for the test, these kids will all do as well as each other at any college. [/quote] Not when an A is can be achieved by having a 89.5 one semester out of every 2 semesters like it is in most public districts. Actually getting a B signifies another different of performance entirely than a Kid with straight As. I have two kids: one has straight As, one had straight As with a few Bs (total). fundamentally two different students from an academic standpoint. [/quote] So a student with an 89.5 average and one with an 89.4 average are “entirely different performance” levels? Because in mcps the first is an A student and the second is a B student. My kids (in mcps) have plenty of teachers who don’t even return graded work until near the end of the quarter, at which time it is hard to elevate a grade by even .5 of a point. And by the way my kids are A students in all AP and honors classes. But I know there are students who are extremely similar performance levels with some Bs. I do also acknowledge there is a big performance difference between a student with an 80 average and one with a 90 average. [b]But plenty of kids with Bs are 89s[/b]. [/quote] So what. It simply means they couldn’t even crack 90 in a watered down system. So they deserve a B, period.[/quote]
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