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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s always a crapshoot. Not much difference from last year at our school. [/quote] For mediocre applicants, it’s indeed a crapshoot. But not for top achievers.[/quote] Yes it is for high achievers, the ones who would easily have gotten a place at a T20 university a few years back. The very top achievers (#1 in their class with extremely rigorous courseload) and top recruited athletes will get a spot at a T20. But the average high achievers with excellent grades and test scores, but no real hook are now having to settle at least one or two rungs down from schools they would have gained admittance too fairly recently. A kid at DD's high school who had a 3.89 uw and 1580 SAT got rejected from his mom's Ivy. My DD was astonished by this, and so was this kid and his parents. But these things are common these days. The kid is going to USC. [/quote] Frankly, a kid with a 3.89 had a few Bs and probably should not have gotten in to an Ivy just because his mother attended. I'm sure there were plenty of more qualified kids at his school. plus USC is a great school. this is actually the system working exactly as it should, IMO. [/quote] You realize “a few Bs” could mean 1-2 points or ONE quiz difference between the kid with the B and the kid with the A. And the kid with the B may have taken harder classes. This is wholly off point to the thread but these kinds of statements drive me crazy and feed into much artificial stress teens today are under. This kid is just as smart and as hard a worker as the person sitting next to him with the 4.0. Just like it is silly to parse between a 1530 and 1580, and “one sitting” v two for the test, these kids will all do as well as each other at any college. [/quote] Not when an A is can be achieved by having a 89.5 one semester out of every 2 semesters like it is in most public districts. Actually getting a B signifies another different of performance entirely than a Kid with straight As. I have two kids: one has straight As, one had straight As with a few Bs (total). fundamentally two different students from an academic standpoint. [/quote] Exactly! When the whole system is watered down so much . Getting a B says a lot about that student.[/quote] My kid purposely plays the system and will do the minimum to earn an A. He thinks the kids in his class who do everything in their power to get in high a or foolish because they’re getting to same grades as the other students that are earning 89.5 and above. My kid consistently does well on standardized tests (eg MAP scores in the 99 percentile) and 1560 on SAT. [/quote] Taking advantage of the full educational offerings in any particular class is not foolish. The point is not to get an A. The point is to get the best education you can.[/quote]
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