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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Appeal got rejected, and spent the last week or so trying not to wonder why and be bummed out. Then this week, we unexpectedly received a letter from the school inviting my kid to Advanced Math in the fall. Makes me feel a bit better that my kid didn't fall completely through the cracks. Might try again next year. For reference: rising 3rd grader (in screening pool) NNAT 160 Cogat 144 WISC 131 GBRS half Cs half Os (I'm guessing this is the main reason for the rejection) [/quote] The Occasionally Observes are a huge issue and the declining test scores. The WISC is high, I don't care what anyone says 97/98th percentile is high. But it does not hit the magic 132, which was the gold standard for a while, and the fact that the test scores for the NNAT and CogAT and then the WISC diminish is probably a flag to the Committee. Your best bet is going to be working on the skills that were reviewed as Occassionally Observed with your child. I would not include the WISC if you apply again, it does not help your case.[/quote] OP here. Is there really a big difference between the NNAT and Cogat scores? They were both 99 percentile. I was on the fence about including the WISC in the appeal, but decided to because the report mentioned that because of significant variation among the subtest scores, the GAI (general ability index) would be a better overall estimate of his general ability, which was a 137 (vs the 131 FSIQ). The Working Memory and Processing Speed indices were what pulled his overall score down -- other indices like Visual Spatial and Fluid Reasoning were extremely high. I can understand how the scores might be perceived if taking a cursory look though, and might not include the WISC if we apply again. [/quote] I don't know the scores well enough to be able to differentiate but a 16 point drop followed by a 14 point drop seems to me to be a lot. But I am not on the Committee for a good reason, I don't have the training to assess these things. Honestly, the scores are all in the 98th-99th percentile which scream high to me. But people on this board seem to poo-poo anything that is below the 99th percentile, with some people poo-pooing anything under 99.5th percentile. It strikes me as crazy because all of those tests point to bright kids. But I literally don't know so my reaction is based on my perception. If the Committee is looking at the tests for anything, a downward trend is not what I would want to show. even if it is from an A+ to an A to an A-. Toss in the conversation about prep and I could see Committee members comparing the prep able tests (NNAT and CogAT) and less prep able test (WISC) and taking that WISC score more as a measure of ability then the WISC and CogAT. Still, I think that the GBRSs are not helping. You know the comments that the Teachers made. Are there things that you can work on with your kid that would move those. For example, is there an issue with rushing through work and not completing it properly? If there are times when the work is well done and correct and other times that the work isn't finished or is finished quickly with mistakes? You have not given examples so I am making one up. If that were the case, then you can start to work with your child on completing work properly. [/quote]
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