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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a trash ranking just based on the huge variance from year to year. Schools don't change that much in a year. They need to hire a better statistician. That's why US News has some credibility in that its formula at least results in a rather stable top 20 list. [/quote]

I disagree US News is likely paid by some of these schools and a great majority of these schools are coasting off their reputations. I don't want a "stable" list, I want a truthful list which is what ATL has given us here. [/quote]

Any reputable ranking will produce a rather stable list, because the truth is schools' quality don't change overnight. The truth is Stanford is definitely a top 25 LS, and HLS and YLS are definitely are in the top 14. This "ranking" needs a lot of improvement in statistics-design. It may tell something you want to hear but it's a meaningless list. You are better off looking at any specific employment statistics if you are so into the "outcome" aspect.[/quote]

This ranking doesn’t measure “quality.” It measures outcomes. The ATL analysis agrees that Yale is still an excellent law school from an academic standpoint; however, the employment data is the data. If you have evidence that the data is flawed, other than, “it shouldn’t have changed so much,” please provide it. If you follow the links on the ATL list, you can see where they got the data (the data is reported by the schools themselves, by the way). But you didn’t bother to look before you criticized the data, did you?

In any case, the data has shown pretty consistent results in the past, including showing a slide down these rankings for these schools. Harvard/Stanford/Yale were 1/2/5 in 2015. Stanford/Yale/Harvard were 1/3/5 in 2017. By 2019, S/H/Y were 6/9/10, respectively. In 2020 they were 6/7/8.  In 2021, 6/8/9. For Yale and Harvard, the slide to 15 and 16 is less of a move than the change in 2019. The big shocker is Stanford. Maybe there is some glitch, but if Stanford reported flawed data, that’s on them.

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