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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery. [/quote]

Its not as much of a lottery as some try to convinces themselves

The ivies are seeking exceptionalism which could include but not necessarily be restricted to GPA and have distinguished themselves their multi-centuries consistent abilities to identify and select exceptional individuals

So the question is who should Harvard take, your kid who scored a 1580 or Al Gore who scored 1355.  Your kid could certainly be more talented with better future success than Al Gore, but obviously Gore was a very successful admit by any measure.  Other SAT scores:

George Bush:  Yale (Governor, President + Veteran) - 1200
John Kerry: Yale (Senator, Secretary of State, etc. + US Navy veteran awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with valor) - 1190
Bill Clinton:  Georgetown, not ivy but elite (Governor, President) - 1030
Al Franken:  Harvard (Comedian, Senator) - 1020

Also, David Hogg was admitted to Harvard with a 1270

Not necessarily a fan of any of the above but objectively they seem to know how to identify and "pick" exceptional talent
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Is there a link to back up any of this?

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I doubt this is accurate, but would also point out that the SAT scales have been changed several times, and current scores are probably about 150+ points higher all things considered than say a 1995 score at the same percentile.[/quote]

Absolutely.  SAT re-scaling has bumped scores up _a_lot_ in the last 30 years: back in the 1980s a kid with a 1600 would be featured on the evening news.  Even in the last 10 years there have been more recalculations.  If you want to benchmark your student's scores against the median at a given school, make sure you are using very current data.  And don't compare with other scores, whether from siblings or from public figures, that are more than a few years old.  Apples and oranges, even if it might sting to admit it.[/quote]

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