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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hopkins.
Serious schools don’t have space for elite D1 basketball or D1 football. By nature and generally speaking those teams are too professional to pass rigorous classes. It’s a red flag regarding rigorous standards or lack there of.
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I attended Duke on athletic scholarship and was recruited everywhere. Duke, Stanford, Notre Dame and UVA all impressed me as very rigorous academic schools. At Duke, a future NFL Super Bowl player was in my honors calculus class, an African American athlete who was a superb student from rural North Carolina. I was in an honors program, finishing magna cum laude with highest honors. Being from a very poor single mother home, I was motivated by a desire to crush effete types with your attitude. I did even better in graduate school. Look, anyone who has been a top level athlete is well aware of the hypocrisy of the NCAA and the industrial sports complex. But to suggest Duke is without rigor is absurd.  You have no idea of what you are talking about. [/quote]
It's true that schools with D1 sports team tends to have less rigorous courses that all the athletes take. It's does not mean that the athletes are dumb, although they generally are dumber than the non-athletes, but also that their sports schedule keeps them from focusing on school.

Duke, Stanford, UVA are considered less rigorous than their peers w/o Power 5 athletics. Stanford is considered far less rigorous than MIT, Caltech, Princeton, U. Chicago. Duke is considered less rigorous than Hopkins/U. Chicago/Cornell. UVA is considered less rigorous than Carnegie Mellon/UC San Diego.[/quote]

Stanford’s engineering school is top ranked for undergrad and graduate in many areas. The engineering school major requirements typically require more credit units and the curriculum is quite rigorous - I have a child in the undergrad engineering school and it is not easy.  But I have heard that a lot of athletes  major in “science, technology, and society” which is considered one of the easier majors with fewer required credits. [/quote]
No doubt Stanford Engineering is rigorous, but not to the same extent as MIT and Caltech (or apparently even Berkeley, as Berkeley weeds out heavily).

And athletes are not usually taking Engineering majors. As an overall school, Stanford is less rigorous because there are many easy classes and majors students can pick to have an easy ride.[/quote]

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