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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is what many companies are doing. Its not an uncommon practice. PreCovid we had many threads about how much of a pay cut was worth a remote position. I took one and it worked well for me for many years! No surprises here[/quote]+1 There was a hug thread about this in late 2020 (I think) when Facebook announced this approach. Even with adjusting for cost of living differences, it’s not like these big tech companies are paying small company crap wages. Why should Google pay SV wages for the employees that opted to move to Idaho?[/quote]

Because wages should be tied to the work and not the location. [/quote]

You can believe that all you want, but employers disagree. [/quote]

That's BS. Most employee who work remotely are highly sought after. The ones who go into office have to b/c they don't have options.[/quote]

That’s not always true. Plenty of grunt work that didn’t require much talent gets shoveled off to remote employees. I think some full-time remote workers think too much of themselves and that’s part of the problem. It exists in-office too, but remote workers aren’t around people who can help deflate their self-perceptions. [/quote]

Just b/c someone is in the office, doesn't mean they are productive. Plenty of people go to office and waste time--go out to lunch, shop online, gossip, etc. Oh but b/c they are in person, they must be working or are more committed...:roll: [/quote]

You missed the point entirely. [b]Many full time remote workers tend to think they are more valuable than they really are. They don’t have anyone to keep them in check or to give them a sense of reality.[/b] I’m not talking strictly about productivity. You are correct that people can waste time in either setting. And just because you’re remote working full time doesn’t mean you got to do that because you’re some Demi-god.[/quote]

lol this is one the dumbest things I’ve ever read. So, basically, you need to micromanage your employees to make sure they’re at their cube and monitoring what they’re working on. Because remote people need to be “in-check”?

Just admit you’re a micromanager and you don’t trust your employees.

But I get more work done remotely than wasting my time commuting, you coming to my cube to talk about the weather when I could be getting shit done in the peace and quiet of my home office. [/quote]

Uh, no. We have very liberal flexible hours. And allow people to work from home as needed. But yes, many (not all) people who work full time from home are a special breed, and [b]think they are more special than anyone else. [/b]

In the case of Google, people need to read the room. Clearly, there is something the company values more than remote workers and are compensating them accordingly. Remote workers who don’t like the changes need to find a place where their remoteness is valued more. Again, there must be an intangible that these remote workers are not understanding. [/quote]

Again this is your FEELING. Not an actual fact whatsoever. I don’t give a shit about what you feel, as long as the people are creating value for the company and getting their work completed on time, their location is irrelevant. Your argument is one of the dumbest things I’ve read.

When we all were forced to work remotely cause of Covid, I didn’t think I was more special than anyone. Neither did any of my coworkers who were remote prior to covid. They still got their work done (early actually), attended meetings, etc. they even flew into dc to attend events when needed once a quarter. It has nothing to do with feeling “more special”. That’s just your bias talking. [/quote]

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