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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Op—in answer to your question:  The Bible —one of the greatest literary works of all time.  So many detailed prophecies already fulfilled, so many archaeological findings backing the order of events up…  countless people have turned to it for centuries as a great source of comfort over the ages. The Bible is God’s Word inspired in these writers.  Yes, it takes faith to believe in God, but[b] it also takes faith to not believe in a Creator.[/b]  For example, to think that the human race was just a series of random mutations that simply occurred out of a Big Bang with no Master Creator also takes crazy faith.  To think that mass, space, planets, galaxies, black holes, stars, and perfect physical phenomenons are not governed by some Higher Power is even greater faith in something not seen.  There is a lot of mystery left in our universe.  Be open to the possibilities.  [/quote]

"it also takes faith to not believe in a Creator" sounds like something people might hear in church, or something said to dissuade incipient atheists.

It doesn't take faith not to believe in a "Master creator" who is simply imagined to fill in for lack of knowledge.  None at all. [/quote]
Perhaps not faith then, but it takes willful ignorance not to believe in a Creator. God can be proven logically, at the level of natural reason. See: Aristotle and the unmoved mover. It takes supernatural faith to believe that that Creator loves each and every one of us as a father loves his child. Christianity is the only religion that posits that.

Of course, none of the people with faith will agree with this, but God has done amazing things for me in this life, even when I did not believe in Him. All things have worked together for good, even the evils that have befallen me. No series of random acts of chance could have done that. Especially since random, dispersonal chance can’t “do” anything, in the ontological sense. Chance has no will and certainly no love.[/quote]

Sorry -- you can interpret how things happened in your own life anyway you want -- but please -- don't try to impose your way of thinking on others.   It does not take "willful ignorance not to believe in a Creator" and  God can NOT "be proven logically, at the level of natural reason."  Even most religious people would disagree with that  -- at least they are not taught that.  [b]Believing in God, or any being beyond nature, is a matter of faith.[/b][/quote]
So what is the answer to the unmoved mover problem then? And where do you get that religious people aren’t taught that you can come to God using natural reason? It’s literally right there in the Catechism. Sounds like a fact that you just pulled out of your rear end tbh.[/quote]

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