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[quote=Anonymous]I disagree.  The average organism (which most of us are) can be trained to be experts and gifted at many tasks.  I am not speaking about those few at the either tail of the Bell shaped curve.  Many at the upper tail, without exposure, training and work, amount to a hill of beans.

Expertise and success in law, business, medicine, journalism, sports (Track, NBA, NFL, Baseball, Tennis, Swimming etc), politics, debating, arts is much more about hard work and training than "gift".  Many, many, many more individuals have the potential ("gift") but not always the drive, dedication, focus, preparation, hard work and preserverance.

I therefore disagree with you completely.  You ascribe the final station and success of individuals to the mysterious concept of "gift".  I think you are hung up on the gift and gifted label.  Many individuals with potential ("gift") in life get derailed by the environment.  This includes enviromental conditions of the womb, the mother and father, the home and school or lack thereof.  How do you separate out those individuals with gifts from those that are derailed by circumstances biologic circumstances beyond their control in the womb and early life.  How do can you tell when someone born with this "gift" gets derailed or the "gift" is taken away.  When and how do you establish an individual has a gift or do you wait until they get into the NBA or get a Nobel Prize the make this assessment?[/quote]

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