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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]I see a lot of crap on this forum about how American education is "superior", "holistic" admissions is best, yada, yada and talking down on Chinese and Indian systems where all that matters (for the most part) is one entrance exam. This exam is taken by students in grade 12 and you have enough notice and time to prep, etc. Unlike in the US if you don't do well in ALL 4 years of High school you are screwed. Why is that not a better system? Why not have customized exams for each area of study and have the kids compete after 12th grade. [b]Make sure all the money and time people spend on made-up ECs and nonsense participation trophies on travel sports goes towards funding prep for under-privileged kids? Wouldn't that level the playing field? No issues with "slow to mature" or "under priviliged" or "URM". All would have the same level of prep available to them. [/b]Of course, colleges can't hide behind the "holistic" veil and do what they want will not like this and the college prep industry that reads the tea leaves on behalf of parents will be out of business.[/quote]

Wait. Are you seriously arguing that the Chinese/Indian/Russian systems are MORE meritocratic? The same India that has somehow managed to export caste prejudices to US universities, to the point that US colleges have needed to institute policies to prevent targeted harassment of "lower caste" Indian students? That India?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/1/us-csu-dalits-hail-university-caste-discrimination-ban

Or perhaps you mean the Gaokao, which students start studying for in elementary school? The one with 5,000 university slots for 9 million test takers? Yes, they have plenty of time to prep, but it does "late bloomers" no good to begin prepping at 14 for a test the most privileged Chinese have been preparing for since 8. [/quote]

Find me another valid source (other than lefty, anti-US news sources) and a "normal" school system other than California where "caste" is a protected class.  This is people making crap out of nothing.

At least the Chinese start at 8.  Parents start their kids off at football and soccer at 3 or 4 in the US and subject them to hours of training and torture throughout their school lives.  Most of them don't "make it", do they?  No different. [/quote]

The literal entire point of this thread is "late bloomers" who don't get serious about school until 15 or 16. A system built around kids having their act together at 8 is actually substantially worse.

The football analogy doesn't work because football is not the only way to access university and therefore a white collar profession. The Gaokao is.

As for the other thing, Harvard recognized caste as a protected class as of the end of last year. https://qz.com/india/2099391/harvard-university-recognises-caste-as-a-protected-class/

"Harvard is the first Ivy League school to spotlight the discrimination students from oppressed and marginalised castes face on campus. It now joins a handful of American institutions such as the University of California, Davis, Colby College, and Brandeis University in formally accepting the prevalence of caste-based harassment on campuses."

and

"From derogatory comments about the intellect of oppressed caste students, to proudly narrating their activism against affirmative action in India prior to their admission into Harvard, to a complete cultural monopoly of south Asian/India celebrations the deep sense of alienation, humiliation, and social exclusion I experienced made me constantly vigilant and worried about the consequences of being outed as a Dalit in Harvard’s south Asian circles,” Raj Muthu, an alumnus of Harvard, told Equality Labs." [/quote]

There are sikhs that take the Mexico to US route and apply for asylum citing racial discrimination in India (where such discrimination is very miniscule).  This woke narrative you quote is a bunch of folks trying to extract an advantage from society where they can.  In all my 30 years in the US, I've never come across a "caste discrimination" situation.  This is the equivalent of a Jewish person being "afraid" that he'd be called a Jew in public.  In the US?  So what?  Ignore the fool, laugh at him and walk away!  Why do you need protection from that?  If someone refuses to hire you because of your caste, then yes, by all means let's address that.  I'm yet to see instances of that.  [/quote]

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