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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^^ Don't you think, with a decision that is impactful as ED, people should go with facts, and not with what you "expect"?

Not trying to be a jerk here, but this is important.  What you say may be true at some schools and not at others, and no one should make blanket assertions without facts.  ED can and does make a difference between acceptance and rejection for many students.[/quote]

It is important and I think you missed my point.  ED can make a difference, but one can see how it undermines the school's incentive with respect to merit.  That was the point of the question.  Your approach is not any different - you are saying that ED can get  you in, which may be correct (at some schools but not at others).  But that's a blanket assertion as well. I am saying that it can diminish the size of an award.  The assumption that merit will be the same RD vs ED is just not supported that I can tell, hence my question.[/quote]

That's a fair enough opinion, but statistics prove the overall admissions benefit of ED (see book below) so it is not really a comparable blanket assertion as one is supported by data and one isn't.  Unless you have some of course, please provide and I will mea culpa.

https://www.amazon.com/Early-Admissions-Game-Joining-chapter/dp/0674016203

This book shows ED is the equivalent boost of 150 SAT points.  Well worth a read if you are interested.[/quote]

Again, you are missing the point.  To be clear, I agree there is an ED bump but the numbers are hard to quantify because of the hooked students that are built into ED.  But assuming arguendo it is a bump, that does not mean it is a bump that offsets the potential risk associated with locking in to a school before it provides a merit award.  There is a fair bit of admittedly anecdotal evidence that RD students can sometimes bargain for additional merit aid through comparison to other offers.

My overall point is I don't know but logic suggests less leverage results in less merit and schools have no incentive to break down that data.  And even if they did, it is still a tough read.  Look at a school like Tulane that was at one time known for merit aid (and still is to an extent).  Even if it broker down the numbers, thy would be skewed by the fact that the RD ADMITTED applicants largely have higher stats that the ED/EA people, who, on average, are more likely to be looking for the bump you mention.  Couple that with most of the slots being filed through ED/EA such that the RD admits (less than 10% of the applicants) have tippy top stats.  So even if it were clear that the RD kids got more merit than the ED kids on average, it would be hard to compare students who are apples to apples in terms of test scores/gpa.

We don't disagree - i am just noting that there is a clear reason why RD may get more merit and bemoaning the fact that it is hard to drill down there.[/quote]

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