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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^^ unsurprisingly, many top public and private lawyers attended non Ivy law schools … conflating attending Ivy law school with legal Success reveals a lack of analytical thinking and insight far more worrying than not attending top ranked law schools. Just plain lazy thinking trying on mystique of prestige. Gloria Allred Law school where she earned her law degree: Loyola Law School Los Angeles at Loyola Marymount University U.S. News law school rank: 72 (tie) William Barr (not a fan but he did well) Law school where he earned his law degree: George Washington University Law School in the District of Columbia U.S. News law school rank: 27 (tie) President Joe Biden (mock him if you want but I think he is practical and highly effective) Law school where he earned his law degree: Syracuse University College of Law in New York U.S. News law school rank: 102 (tie) Clarence Darrow Law school that he attended without receiving a formal degree: University of Michigan—Ann Arbor Law School U.S. News law school rank: 10 (tie) Keith Harper Law school where he earned his law degree: New York University School of Law U.S. News law school rank: 6 (tie) Kamala Harris Law school where she earned her law degree: University of California—Hastings College of the Law in San Francisco U.S. News law school rank: 50 (tie) Kevin Hasson Law school where he earned his law degree: University of Notre Dame Law School in Indiana U.S. News law school rank: 22 (tie) John Marshall Law school he attended without earning a formal degree: William & Mary Law School in Virginia U.S. News law school rank: 35 (tie) Thurgood Marshall Law school where he earned his law degree: Howard University School of Law in the District of Columbia U.S. News law school rank: 91 (tie) Mitch McConnell (cynical and manipulative but super Smart) Law school where he earned his law degree: University of Kentucky's J. David Rosenberg College of Law U.S. News law school rank: 81 (tie) Mike Moore Law school where he earned his law degree: University of Mississippi School of Law U.S. News law school rank: 98 (tie) As the former attorney general of the state of Mississippi, Moore was the first U.S. state attorney general to sue tobacco companies for causing harm to public health. Robert Mueller Law school where he earned his law degree: University of Virginia School of Law U.S. News law school rank: 8 Barry Scheck Law school where he earned his law degree: University of California—Berkeley School of Law U.S. News law school rank: 9 Barry Scheck is a co-founder and special counsel with the Innocence Project, a nonprofit that helps wrongfully convicted prisoners prove their innocence and gain their freedom Elizabeth Warren Law school where she earned her law degree: Rutgers Law School in New Jersey U.S. News law school rank: 91 (tie) Before she was elected to the U.S. Senate, Elizabeth Warren gained national prominence as a consumer advocate (she attended Harvard for undergrad so would ostensibly fit your legal flop criteria while in reality she used her law degree to fight for many public goods).[/quote] OP - have you revised any of your assumptions yet? [/quote] Why would you think this list would make anyone revise their assumption that you need to go to a top law school to be successful? Some of these people are from long ago (e.g., Marshall and Darrow), many have excelled in fields other than law (e.g., Biden, McConnell, Harris), some of them went to elite law schools that just aren't associated with colleges that are part of the Ivy League (e.g., Scheck, Mueller and Harper). And some of the rest are outliers. Bill Gates dropped out of college; that doesn't make not attending college a great plan for most people. Here are the law schools of Biden's nominees to the federal circuit courts: Harvard, Duke, Harvard, Yale, Suffolk, Yale, Columbia, Chicago, Cornell, Virginia, Memphis, Yale, Yale, Harvard, Yale, Yale, Cal-Hastings, Tulane. So that's 14 of 18 who went to one of the Top 14 law schools in the country, which are the elite law schools.[/quote] 33% Yale.[/quote] More a sign of self perpetuating gate keeping … Pays to be part of Yale Skulls and Bones secret society … has worked for Yale law school Grads who were clearly not the sharpest knives in the drawer …[/quote]
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