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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ugh, this thread.

Of course we can all come up with more filling/healthful/whatever 1200 calorie menus than in the OP but

1) 1200 calories is almost always a bad idea and it's no wonder it's hard to design in a sustainable way (even short-term sustainable!), because it's... not. Or so rarely that it's effectively not.

2) It's a bit scary and an indictment of diet culture-- ironically the thing most responsible for making us fat-- that so many of us can come up with a more "ideal" 1200 calorie day involving like a pound of cabbage and a fat-free, egg-free, sugar-free, taste-free piece of vegan cheese or whatever.

(Nobody tell me that there are slightly more attractive and tenable 1200-calorie menus here-- trust me, I could come up with another dozen of them without blinking. Which is problematic in itself.) [/quote]

Who cares. OP is using the 1200 benchmark as an excuse to not reform her diet. She’s setting herself up to fail by deciding a low calorie diet is “insane” instead of triangulating in on a workable low calorie diet. [/quote]

No. You don't get it.

It is* insane.

There is no such thing* as a workable 1200-calorie diet.

She will* fail.

It may be an excuse, but it's more supportable reasoning than the idea that a 1200-calorie diet can be "workable" or successful!

*FFS, of course there are exceptions! But they are rare, and what is much more common is failing and actually making things worse than before you started. If a plan were very unlikely to succeed, but if it didn't, there would be no serious negative consequences, okay, great! Why not try? But there are so many downstream negative consequences to a plan like this, both psychologically and physically, that OP needs a different plan. Not to be blamed and offered a modification that has a 5% chance of success instead of a mere 4% chance.  The science is unambiguous on this. IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY TO SUCCEED AND IF IT FAILS, HIGHLY LIKELY TO CAUSE HARM. [/quote]

Meh, I lost 18 lbs on a 1200 calorie diet. It wasn't long-term, and I spread it out, with a short break in the middle when I ate more (and didn't lose any weight). It kept me going because I was losing steadily over the weeks I did it, which encouraged me. Now I maintain at 1500. Yes, that is what my body uses at my weight /height/age. I am short and wear a size 6. Unless you are under 5'3 and are menopausal, you probably wouldn't understand. Not everyone can eat 1800-2000 calories a day and maintain a healthy BMI.[/quote]

Wow, the point sailed right over your head.

From my post: "FFS, of course there are exceptions!"

And where TF did I say everyone could eat 1800-2000 calories a day and maintain a healthy BMI? BMI is BS anyway.

Oh, and PS, I am under 5'3" and I am perimenopausal but not of that makes a bit of difference because you misunderstand me. You don't seem to conceive of a person who would say the American obsession with weight loss is harmful and illogical and counterproductive even to the goal of weight loss, so somehow you have fashioned my response into something like, "Eating 1200 calories never, ever, ever leads weight loss, to really lose weight or maintain a healthy BMI, which I am in full support of!!!! because how could anyone not be?!?!?!, you should eat 1800-2000 calories. This is my weight loss prescription because I think weight loss is good."

FFS. [/quote]

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