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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A similar argument can be made for the talent found in our top colleges and universities.  There is a concentration of talent....not all...but a significant concentration.   I mean suit yourselves, but I want the open heart surgery from the surgeon that trained at Harvard or the like if I can get it.[/quote]

This is simply not how you go from promising to academically elite at undergrad or post-grad levels. Most people who are elite academically have 3-5 close friends of comparable talent, and you can find that group in small public schools in the heartland and absolutely any top 400 university of in the country.  So I am going to continue assuming that your misguided judgments about academic elites are not based on personal experience.

You really see this in grad schools, when the middle of the class cannon fodder from Ivies shakes their heads in disbelief while they are lapped from kids from schools of which they never heard. You also see this on top study abroad programs. It would be eye opening for anybody who simply picks their surgeon based on what they see on a wall, which is itself preposterously stupid. [/quote]

You can't say that the instruction and facilities and peer group and league strength matter to learn how to play soccer and but that non of that matters to learn calculus or economics or how to program a computer or how to excel in written communication and so on and so on.

I mean you can say that but it makes no sense.   [/quote]

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