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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]here they are:

https://www.pvswim.org/2122meet/22-jo-qualifying-times.pdf[/quote]

Thanks for posting!  Can I ask a dumb question. I have a 9 year old who turns 10 in January. Does he have a “bad” birthday for this? Like - this year is his only year to qualify as 10 & under because if he does it next year - even if he swam it while 10 - he would be 11 by the time of the meet?

Sorry it this question does make sense. But I hope you understand what I’m trying to ask. Thanks![/quote]

Yeah, my daughter has a late December birthday and her swim friend has a late march birthday. The December birthday is a little frustrating when it comes to JOs. The March birthday friend has a sweet deal![/quote]

sorry, I am not following - which month is the "best" birthday then, what are the rules for age, is it calendar based ie calendar year, or is it how old you are on the day of the actual meet? So in theory you would change age groups mid swim season? Thanks[/quote]
The “best” birthday depends on what meet you’re focusing on. For JOs, yeah a birthday in January or February is not ideal. But for say summer swim and the summer long course meets, a spring birthday is not ideal. My DC has a May birthday and while that is fine for JOs, it is not great for summer swim/long course. [/quote]

I actually disagree (and have a kid with a late fall birthday so not particularly good for either SCY or LCM).  By the time they are 13/14 (and maybe even 12), it all shakes out. She ends up competing against different kids at different points in the year.  [b]And it bugs me a bit for summer that some kids are swimming an age below their actual age.[/b]  I think swim the exact age you are at a meet feels fair.

Yes, I think this is a big issue in swimming and wish USAS would use cutoff dates like most sports - something like Jan 1 for SC champs and July 1 for long course champs, so that kids who are training and competing with their age group all season could actually participate in the season-ending meet. [/quote][/quote]

DD went to a birthday party last year between divisionals and all stars. I can't imagine how rough it would be on a kid to make all stars and then lose the spot before the meet even occurs. [/quote]

Not a summer example, but my kid is in the JO results someone linked above with a zones cut. His 11th birthday was between JOs and the first day of zones, so actually he did not qualify. (Perfect example of a great JO birthday!) But, you know this all season long. These kids focus on JOs and maybe NCSA age group champs or another meet depending on which the club travels to and the dates of that meet.

I would argue that the kid with an early March birthday is training for those 11yo JO cuts all season because those are the goals. It's tough and in those younger years, it means they may not qualify for JOs at the bottom of the age group, but that's ok, there's another meet for those kids.

It all shakes out as they age, once they are in HS, it doesn't matter, they are setting goals for specific meets that are by time rather than age. If they are looking to swim in college, they are associated with their graduating class.[/quote]

But when they are young, if you have a bad JO bday, you also have a bad NCSA bday, as well. That's largely kids who have a birthday from Feb through around the second/ third week in March.[/quote]

But then you have a good summer champs/LC Zone & Dec champs birthday.[/quote]

Yup. [/quote]

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