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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Berkeley is great if you are a graduate student or a professor doing research. But if you are an undergrad, not much, except you are contributing much of your tuition to support the staff for their research while you cram in the huge classrooms trying to make sense what the teaching instructors are saying in a rush. The thousand person classroom experiense is just not great.
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Large classes are limited to introductory classes in popular fields and account for about 10-15% of the classes over the 4 years. Depending on your major, you may only take 2-3 large classes in 4 years or fewer. Almost all classes are not large and even large classes have smaller (20-35 students) discussion sections.

Let's come up with something new to attack Berkeley than the "oh the undergrad classes are huge so it's bad " argument.[/quote]

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Sorry. I am a faculty member in higher education and really did not know that any universities offered classes that exceeded 1,000 students at a time. 
How can that POSSIBLY be considered a quality way to educate young adults?

Again, Berkeley undoubtedly has many smart faculty members who produce world changing research...but the fact that the school's administrators allow this to go on borders on educational malpractice to me. [/quote]

Offering 1000 student lecture hall intro courses (with small discussion sections) is not unique to Berkeley. Many public universities offer such courses. In fact, it may do some good to have some of the K-12 private school/Harvard/Yale students to experience some of these classes to experience "real life" to help them become better human beings.

Oh, and you can choose to donate to public universities so that their class size can decrease in the future if the clas,s size bothers you so much. [/quote]

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Cal is all about research and graduate programs, not undergraduates.  [/quote]

My undergraduate kid was happy there were many research opportunities for undergrad and that he could take graduate courses as  an undergrad. [/quote]

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