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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern. [/quote] $115K per year is mid to lower tier firm. High-mid to top tier firms offer $150,000-200,000/year right out of college. We need stats from these firms, not the lower level firms that hire mostly state or boot camp grads. [/quote] Here we go again with the insane DC Urban Moms: Prestige Hunters. A kid making $115k out of college is PHENOMENAL. Truly an amazing accomplishment. We all should have been so fortunate when we graduated. But you choose to move the goalposts. "Oh yeah? Well other kids make $150-$200k out of college." Like that's normal, to be expected. As if all CMU/MIT/Stanford/Cal grads are making $150-$200k. FYI: The median CMU computer science salary out of the school (2019, 2020) was $118,000. You can see this yourself on their outcomes dashboard: [url]https://www.cmu.edu/career/outcomes/post-grad-dashboard.html[/url] That $115k salary is right around the median, not some poor slob underperformer at CMU.[/quote] Yes, but there are boot camp grads that make $115k - without the cost of the tuition at state universities you are touting. [/quote] You're gonna have to back that up with real stats. Do you have a link showing these salaries? Also, are you posting on the right thread? Seems an appropriate comment on that other thread on the WSJ story about boys not going to college.[/quote] Funny, why didn’t you ask OP for stats on what GMU students make? OP made a generalization after citing 1 - yes, a sample size of 1 - who was hired by his or her low-level firm, as if all GMU grads make $115k/ur right out of college. [/quote] Salaries for a specific employer are, of course, private transactions, there is nothing public to publish. However, the claimed $115k salary is in line with published salary information from CMU. Surely a bootcamp would be crowing about their amazing salaries with published data, right? [/quote] “Salary of CompSci Graduates with a Bachelor's Degree The median salary of compsci students who receive their bachelor's degree at GMU is $69,400. This is great news for graduates of the program...” Woopy do. [/quote] PP here. You'll get no disagreement from me on this. The stats don't lie, CMU on average makes more. My earlier point was: [list]$115k is an amazing salary, no need to move goalposts to $150-$200k offers[/list] [list]$115k for a CMU graduate is in line with median starting salaries for that school[/list] [list]Back up the claim that coding boot camps generate $115k salaries[/list] [/quote] Coding boot camp median salary is higher than GMU grads’. “In Course Report's most recent study of 3,043 graduates, we find that coding bootcamp graduates earn an average $69,079, with a median salary of $65,000 in their first jobs.” https://www.coursereport.com/blog/web-developer-salaries-after-coding-bootcamps [/quote] Been hiring programmers for 30 years. I call BS on this. Total BS. I am not saying their data doesn't say that, I am saying the analysis is faulty. The idea that a bootcamp programmer is more valuable than ANY CS degree, let alone one from CMU, is laughable.[/quote] PP is a BSer striver who has a comprehension issue. GMU ain’t no CMU. [/quote] Hey, idiot. CMU was referenced above which is why I mentioned it. GMU was addressed in the "ANY CS degree" part. Everything was comprehended by me, anyway. You... not so much. Every accusation is a confession, I guess.[/quote]
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