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"Unhooked white and Asian kids?" Probably not. In fact, it's pretty much statistically impossible.

For the class of 2021, 75.9% are white or Asian. [/quote]

You typed a lot more after that, but there was no reason to read it as you admitted PP was right in your third sentence.[/quote]

Nope.  “White and Asian” is not the same as “[u]unhooked[/u] white and Asian.”

Is it your belief that none of the legacies admitted to Harvard are white or Asian? How about athletes? First Gen? Faculty children? Rural? [/quote]

I think you need to read the OPs statement again, learn the meaning of "largest", and admit that your argument is faulty because your points carry gigantic assumptions.  For example [i]"Even allowing for some overlap between hooks (First gen/recruited athlete? Legacy/Director's List? Rural/first gen?)"[/i] when in fact you don't know what percentage of those hooks are what race.  You use them all as exclusions.

You don't have the facts or data to support your assumptions.

The most you can say is that PP does not know the percentage of "unhooked" and should remove that from his statement, which would weaken it.  But your admission that [i]"For the class of 2021, 75.9% are white or Asian."[/i] throws your claim out wholesale.  Sorry.[/quote]

So, for a discussion of whether hooks impact admissions, whether a student is hooked or not is irrelevant?

Now, I’m betting you are an Ivy grad, because this combination of arrogance and stupidity is rare in any other population. [/quote]

Not an Ivy grad. Do have a kid at one and have been to campus many times so I know others.  Also not resorting to ad hominems.  You defeated your own argument in your third sentence.  I get how that must make you feel.  If it eases your pain to call me names, please go ahead.  It does not bother me.

Your claim requires the assumption that no URMs are also recruited athletes, first gen, or legacies.  It's preposterous, and easily shown to be false by a quick look at roster photographs. Regardless, it is all speculation, as you don't have the data, except for the one data point you began with: "For the class of 2021, 75.9% are white or Asian".

You can respond with more name calling if you like, but unless you have other data, I rest.[/quote]

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