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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ok clear this up for me.  Are these socities  for rich people or elite people?  Those are not the same thing.[/quote]

Elite people. Old families, even if the families are no longer rich or never were.  I’m relatively well off but I wouldn’t say I’m rich. My father was rich, but not as rich as my grandfather, who was not as rich as my great grandfather.  In another branch of my family, my great grandmother endowed a chair at Columbia. No way that I, my father, or even my grandfather could have done that. My family has been downwardly mobile for generations but we still get into the same clubs we always have. Our children are still invited to cotillion. Even the daughters of branches of my family that never had money are debutantes and social belles. My father was very conflicted about all that. I could never tell where his head was at on that subject. [/quote]

This is an interesting and educational discussion for  a public school mongrel like myself..  What was the cause of you Dad's conflict?  He was conflicted about all of it,  or just that the part of the family with the breeding and not the money were still invited to cotillion?  [/quote]

You’re question is too binary. I really never understood my father’s conflict. He moved out west to get away from his family. His family had always joined private clubs and were high ranking Freemasons. My father wanted none of that. But sometimes it was as if another person appeared and he would talk of his family’s old traditions with pride. It’s just not explainable. Most people thought my father’s idiosyncrasies were caused by the death of his mother when he was six and his father’s second marriage to the classic wicked stepmother. But now we all agree that my father had Asberger’s, as does my son. Their behavior is often not logically explicable. [/quote]

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