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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Honestly, I blame USNWR and that ilk, as the schools can’t really take too many of those really focused, quirky kids who may not have perfect SATs or grades in every subject and 15 APs, because they were really focusing on their “passion.” [/quote]

And yet they still do.  They take every kid they want.  They get to pick who that is.

[quote=Anonymous]I’m not mad about this; [/quote]

Could have fooled me.

[quote=Anonymous]but I do see that many brilliant, interesting, intellectual kids aren’t even applying to the Ivies because they see who is applying and who gets in, and are just not interested. [/quote]

Maybe they are not applying because since their brilliance allows them to understand math and that there are 20,000 ivy seats for 3.7 million  graduating students, so even if they are in the top 1% it is about a 5% chance?

[quote=Anonymous]I’m sure the Ivies don’t care, as they are still being inundated with applications, and their USNWR rankings will still look good[/quote]

They DO care, and put a lot of effort into building the class they want to have.  Are you suggesting they compromise that in some way?  You have exactly zero evidence of that.

[quote=Anonymous]I wonder if some of the shine is going to come off, eventually, from an academic perspective? [/quote]

I will concede your thoughts are probably well intentioned, and you are likely a thoughtful person.  But your general hypothesis:  That Ivy League schools don't pick who they want or they should because of outside forces --  it completely false and unsupported by any data or testimony.

They pick who they want.  They get to pick from a cohort that is largely comprised of the top performers.  They always have, and they always will, pick exactly who they want to build the best class they can.

That's it.

There is no more analysis necessary, nor would it be helpful if there was.[/quote]

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