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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Travel quarantine is for unvaxxed only. [/quote]

Which is all kids under 12. Most of the school system. Why are people so obtuse?[/quote]

I get that it really sucks to not be able to get younger kids vaccinated. But it also sucks for those kids to get COVID, especially given mounting evidence that the Delta variant is resulting in more, sicker kids. So the travel quarantine—which as another poster notes can be shortened via testing—seems like a reasonable way to help stem spread. Most travel is a choice, and we’re all having to make hard choices right now.

All of that said, I agree that the travel quarantine could be more refined/nuanced than it is. It is silly that you can travel to the VA-TN border, where vaccination rates are likely quite low and COVID-19 rates much higher, but not to Philadelphia or NYC or Boston, where the opposite is the case.[/quote]

There is no evidence whatsoever that Delta is making kids sicker. Try again.[/quote]

The evidence to date is that Delta does not seem to make kids sicker if they get it, but it is more transmissible.  So the total number of kids that get serious infections (e.g., hospitalizations) goes up and individual risk of hospitalization from covid goes up.

Math:
(chance of getting covid) * (chance of hospitalization if getting covid) = chance of hospitalization from covid

With delta, the chance of getting covid goes up, but the chance of hospitalization does not go up, which still means that the chance of hospitalization from covid goes up.

AT ANY RATE, the chance of hospitalization if getting covid is super low for kids, and [b]the chance of getting covid is still low in places with low rates + higher vax rates[/b], so the chance of hospitalization from covid for kids is still probably very low.[/quote]
No, the bolded is no longer true. The covid Oprah has arrived for the unvacc'ed, which includes children. If you're not vaccinated and you gather indoors, which includes a classroom, you probably get a delta in the next two-three months, unless we take ALL OF THE MEASURES.  Let's take all of the measures. Except you have the scum dcum half that is so proud of their lies and cheating around traveling and opting out of testing, and picking the 'most breathable masks', and demanding 5 full days/week so I'm not sure how/whether we can protect the kids. [/quote]

False. Covid hospitalization rates for kids are still extremely low in the UK, and kids are a small proprotion of positives, even with unmasked school in the UK.

https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1418604716368482305

Anyone who is pondering keeping their kid out of school due to covid really needs to talk to their pediatrician and read some research.  Seriously.  Unless you have a medically vulnerable kid, there's no justification for it.  The small additional protection from risk that you'd be giving your kid is far outweighed by depriving them of a normal life (and likely also transmitting your anxiety disorder to them.)[/quote]

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