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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Race was not considered. Middle school and unknown experience factors were. I hope FCPS keeps those factors secret. [/quote]

LOL right.  Not much of a secret when FARMS went up from 2% to 25% - you think it's an accident?[/quote]

No, that is a product of including kids from every school. The 1.5% of kids from the MS traditionally not represented will have included a majority of kids who were FARMS. And ELL. Does that make up 25%? Probably not but I doubt that the experience factors are as large a factor as some folks think. There are 26 MS in FCPS, how many of those schools had not sent a kid to TJ in ages? And how many of those schools are high FARMS schools?

There is also cross-over between the various factors people are mentioning, I would guess that many of the ELL are also FARMs kids. I don’t know the exact percentage, I have not seen the data. I am aware that ELL can be non-Hispanic, at Fox Mill we have kids who are native Japanese speakers and are learning English who are ELL. I would guess that the majority of ELL speakers are Spanish speaker but I don’t know what percentage.

As for the comments about how race had to be a factor, the drop in Asian acceptances is more likely due to the increase in kids from schools that normally don’t have any kids accepted. That 1.5% adds up across the schools that normally don’t send anyone. If those schools are now sending 8 kids a piece, then there is your difference. The reality is that the schools that normally don’t send kids are less likely to have a larger Asian population. The Asian families that are focused on TJ move to get their kids into MS at the feeder schools, not Herndon MS and the schools who send a lot fewer kids. The MS inclusion served to diversify the population in important ways, I suspect that it is not going to be as easy to over turn as many people on this board think.

I do believe that the original numbers showed that a higher percentage of Asian kids were accepted then applied, even if the overall number of Asian students at the school dropped. I suspect that it is going to be hard to garner much sympathy when the acceptances still led to a greater then 50% Asian student body while increasing the number URM and ELL and FARMs kids at the same time.

The reality is that TJ is a public school and it should be available to everyone in the system and not just the kids at specific schools whose families are only focused on TJ. [/quote]

Totally agree! I hope they step it up next year to provide more opportunities for less affluent kids.[/quote]

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