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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]IMPACT and rewards are simply disgusting. It's long established that 'rewards' are an ineffective way to motivate students. Why different for teachers? It's bad pedagogy in skill development.
Teachers should practice reflective teaching within professional learning communities, and be measured against the reasonable and wonderful goals they set, a reflective piece in which they themselves discuss the strides they made and areas where they still seek to improve, and projects they enact. individual PD could be tied to their goal setting. Buddying up with another teacher for safe, productive and honest feedback etc. This whole system is so top down it makes me ill. It's sole goal is compliancy--something I would never make the center of my classroom teaching.[/quote]

Actually reinforcement has long proven by behavioral psychology. What do you think a paycheck is? 
And I don’t think impact is meant to develop a skill, it’s meant to reward teachers who already have the skills or professionally develop to have them.

You know an evaluation is used to measure where you are and then it’s YOUR job to get to a better place if you did badly on an evaluation. Teachers are adults or did someone hold your hand in college too?

What makes me sick is most teachers taking a 1.5 year break and still expect to be coddled. You can do all those things at your school and still be rewarded.
And oh? A 25k a year pay increase is definitely motivating to many people. Tired of teachers with this holier than thou attitude. [/quote]

You are really behind on the times. Read "Punished by Rewards" and similar research on focusing on extrinsic motivation and how damaging it is to kids. Also, there are numerous recent studies on how clumsy and ineffective most topdown checklisty and formulaic workplace evaluations are. Not sure why IMPACt would be the exception. Read up![/quote]

You can just read about behavioral psychology. Some people do not have intrinsic motivation or do you assume all people are the same?
Also rewards do not have to have punishments. And I also called it reinforcement not a reward. If person A does x and gets something they like they’ll likely keep doing it.
Just like I am a teacher because I like kids and teaching, I deal with impact because I like the things money can buy. Simple.

And why tf are you talking about kids rn, are you one?

You also seem to think I’d like to keep impact, I like the reinforcement it gives me to continue dealing with it. Just like someone who hates their job continues for the paycheck.

Regardless impact could be leaving but I highly doubt the reward system will, most teachers do like that. Especially new teachers which we have a TON of. So I 100% think they’ll keep LIFT. And despite what you think teachers do need an evaluation tool that allows them to be fired after a certain amount of time of being poor at their jobs.[/quote]

I am talking about kids because I have observed, as a teacher, that school systems employ methods with their faculty that they have banished (with good reason)  with students. I find it fascinating. Second, an intentional and well managed  culture can develop intrinsic motivation and there are evaluations that I detailed that actually develop teachers professionally in the process, and create a healthier workplace over all.[/quote]

They have not banished reinforcement with children, it’s alive and well and used in every research based SEL program including Conscious Discipline.

I find it fascinating that this isn’t understood, student face consequences all the time. What happens if they continuously gets F’s? They are held back (well not always in DCPS but you know what I mean).

A more tangible example is if you go to the grocery store with your kid and set expectations and if they are met they’ll receive their cookie.

Let’s say they tantrumed like crazy.

A consequence is obviously no cookie. A punishment is hitting them, yelling at them, or maybe you get the cookie and eat it in front of them.

Now you may say why’d you have to offer a cookie in the first place? 
1. Because the child wanted one and is motivated by one. Not all children are good or do well because it intrinsically makes them happy.

Even students who do well in school are not all motivated intrinsically, even wanting to see an A is not intrinsic, they are seeking a value.

Again, if you can’t handle the idea of someone NOT getting a bonus or a reward in a new system, NOT impact, when they have not earned it…that says a lot.

I want my job to support me finically and give me things I need to continue to grow as a teacher. You must work with older kids cause no kid in my upper elementary class is solely motivated intrinsically. Especially the ones dealing with trauma, have special needs, or just don’t find the idea of school as their job. [/quote]

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