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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] American colleges, with their strange insistence on "holistic" admissions, are not very appealing to my teen, who wants to focus on academics and go somewhere that admits based on that. Universities abroad place much greater importance on grades and test scores than those in the US. However, if my teen looks for a job or applies to grad school in the US (it would likely be grad school for him), how will hiring managers or admissions officers view those universities? [/quote] odd view. Grades and test scores are by far the #1 thing US colleges look for. The problem is that the pool of all those great grades and test scores is larger than the pool so they look to other things. I guess you are refering to the sports people but at most top schools the vast majority of the sports folks are within the grades and the test scores that the college is looking for.[/quote] The number of available seats is comparatively so small because elite American universities intentionally keep it that way to increase their prestige. They can diversify classes all they want, but if schools like HYP etc actually cared about access, they could so easily increase their class sizes and offer the quality programs they offer to many more qualified students. But they don't care abt access, they care about prestige and exclusivity. UToronto, arguably Canada's top ranked university, has 40,000 undergraduates: because they care about offering seats to the qualified students. You dont have to be an insane competitor in the rat race to get into Canada's top university. Same with McGill and UBC, which have tens of thousands of undergrads. McGill has 30,000 undergrads. Even Oxford and cambridge are easier to get into relatively to their counterparts in the states, and the standards of admission are much more straightforward. It's less of a rat race. Oxford is opening a new college soon, and both Ox and Cam have built new colleges in recent decades to accommodate new students. Oxbridge and St Andrews are far from perfect models of access, but even St Andrews, in line with incredible demand from qualified applicants has increased the size of its student body substantially in recent decades. [/quote]
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