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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This whole thread (like many others on DCUM that devolve into racial stereotyping) shows how toxic the TJ discussion and environment have become.  It's sad for all the kids that go there or will go there who just want to take cool STEM courses that aren't available elsewhere.  These kids are now just pawns in a political debate marked by racist overtones on all sides.[/quote]

"...on many sides.... on many sides....."

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Yep - this is what happens when you engage in both-sidesism and try to pretend that the privileged - the majority - are equally oppressed.[/quote]

That's ludicrous.  All I meant was that there are lots of racial stereotypes being thrown around in this debate - some of the people who don't like the changes admissions policy are stereotyping Black and Latino/a students (as less qualified) and some of the people who do like the changes are stereotyping Asian American students (as prepped robots).  The only students that have escaped the stereotyping are white students.  Funny how that works out.  [/quote]

Correct. And the point I'm making is that the charge of "less qualified" is a lot more pernicious than "prepped robots". Neither are great, but one is a lot uglier than the other and carries much deeper coded meaning about inadequacy. Additionally, the power relationship in this dynamic SIGNIFICANTLY favors the group that routinely occupies 70-75% of the seats at the school.  [/quote]

The whole exercise was intended to discriminate against "the group that occupies 70-75% of the seats at the school."  It's what FCPS does these days.  [/quote]

:roll: Anything the reduces the number of seats help by the majority will be called racist. Basically, TJ must remain 70-75% of one race forever or that's discrimination against that race. Forget other minorities and whether they have access. Imagine if white people were allowed to argue that reducing the number of white kids in segregated schools was discrimination against white students.[/quote]

If Applicant's are not allowed to indicate race on the application, I don't think we would see this reaction.  Something that reduces the majority is very different than targeting the majority with policies to reduce them.  Let's take race out of the application process entirely.
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Even without looking at race, the geographic distribution policy, of having a minimum number of students from each school, would serve to artificially increase certain races and reduce others.  This is how elite colleges reduced the number of Jews 100 years ago.
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Jews were also given poor subjective and personality scores to keep them out just like what is being done to Asians. [/quote]

Just like with the Jews, I don't think it's going to matter.  Despite the aggressive exclusion, Jews went on to dominate finance, Law, medicine and Hollywood.  Asians will do the same.

This is a blessing in disguise.  The kids that don't make it to TJ will stay back at base schools and get into the same top schools without working as hard for 4 years.  A few of TJ kid's friends who didn't get into TJ 4 years ago all did very well with college admissions - Ivies and other T-20 schools.

It's the high performing URMs that will end up being affected the most.   There will be a shadow of doubt over their heads (everyone thinking they are quota kids) and their accomplishments will always be questioned. Pity.[/quote]

Discrimination against Jews in college admissions disappeared after about 40 years so discrimination against Asians should also disappear since it’s been about 40 years now. Hopefully, Harvard case will finally do that. Thanks [/quote]

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