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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Clubs that offer 5 teams are offering a training opportunity for money.  If your player is slow timid and untechnical yet welcomed and encouraged ... well there is a cause and effect but if you believe paying money will change that then you should be free to do so.  False dreams and false hopes are an interesting delusion to buy for children.  [/quote]

Statements like this show some pretty fixed deterministic thinking and explain why people think okay for coaches to scream and shout rather than actually coach.    Replace “paying money” for “coaching” in the above sentence and you understand the mindset that winners are bred not trained.   Pretty un-American philosophy - and small thinking given that kids develop at different rates.   The statement that Messi would not have made it through the US system is a fair criticism - and should encourage reflection on the whole dumpster fire of US youth soccer which is a business not a sport.   Kids should play locally - with good coaching - and opportunity to “travel” if top tier (top 1%) - ie: 1 or 2 kids on most current A teams. The problem is not that parents pay for travel - it is that there isn’t other options for regular “quality” coaching.[/quote]

Well stated.  I almost wrote “coaching” instead of “paying money” as I wasn’t sure how well expressing.  Coaching makes a difference.   Athleticism makes a difference.   And in the US money makes a difference disproportionately. 
I think Messi makes it through the US system as people tend to overlook his raw speed and acceleration. Same with Ronaldo.   Same with Pulisic.  
I don’t know that Messi would have made it out of US into Europe though.   Would he have received a chance if an American waiting till 18???

I think point is that even in Spain and Argentina - pay or no pay - there are players that develop and players that don’t. 
Coaches and managers make judgments all the time.  
Parents should too and be realistic about where their child is.

Reality is almost no NCSL or ECNL player will ever play professionally in top world leagues.  And yelling at them now or later is unlikely to be the determinant that sparks any change to that.  
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