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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, Columbia is next after HYP, but quite close. Plenty of genius kids there. New York City is hard to ignore in opportunities.

Historically, in the US from the 18th century through the 1930's or 1940's  H, Y, P, C were the big four and the origins for the IV ( later Ivy) for emphasis on classics. [/quote]

So tired of seeing this same Columbia booster post this over and over and over on DCUM. Give it a rest. Any google search about the origin of the name Ivy League reveals this story doesn't hold. It seems like the poster came across this theory at some point in her life (or maybe created it), latched onto it, and has repeated it every chance she gets to try to boost Columbia. Not sure why she cares so much.[/quote]

I don't know anything about the "emphasis on classics," but the first precursor to the league was indeed a group formed by these four schools, known as the Intercollegiate Football Association.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercollegiate_Football_Association

Columbia fell out of favor some time around the early 1900's. Here's an excerpt from the book "The Power of Privilege: Yale and America's Elite Colleges."

"Columbia University was the first to suffer from the Jewish meritocratic invasion. Within a decade, Jewish youths went from an insignificant percentage of Columbia's undergraduates to more than 40 percent. The Jewish influx brought a precipitous drop in Social Register and other WASP families as they fled Columbia for racially purer bucolic colleges. Yale, Harvard, and Princeton were appalled by the prospect of suffering a similar fate."

Hello :

What you are saying is 100% correct. In fact the prejudice was so bad that the president of Harvard in the 1920's cut down on the number of Jewish students which was approaching 25% by about 1922. he said that the old families would not only ostracize on campus but actually stop even considering to attend Harvard. The Crimson had detailed articles at the time showing the desperation by the administration to alter the student body and reduce the number of Jewish students, even though in academic merit they clearly deserved to be accepted. Columbia did this too, but it was in a harder situation because it is in NYC with much larger populations, and by its name since 1896  '...'in the City of New York' . Besides, its gets difficult to persuade faculty to reject gifted students even when in large numbers in a city like NYC.

This is the reason why it is HYP and not HYPC today. It is an appalling reason and reminds us that much of what is referred to prestige today is still entrenched in the remains of past racist concepts and practices. For this forum, it is another reminder that arguing about minuscule prestige differences of these colleges is a waste of time, as it is something that is rooted in anything but merit or quality of these institutions. 
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