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is desegregation a bad thing now? [/quote]

The previous admissions criteria were race neutral.[/quote]

the outcome wasn't. Most segregation post 60s is race neutral on it's face- that's how it's allowed to persist for as long as it does [/quote]

The outcome was race neutral.  You just don't like the outcome.[/quote]

DP.  And the new standard is race neutral and now you don't like the potential outcome.  Oh well.[/quote]

Let's let the court decide if its race neutral.  "Experience factors" are not race neutral.[/quote] If it is truly based on “experience”, shouldn’t the higher points be given to Asian kids whose parents came to the US recently, have to work hard to provide for the family and who don’t speak English at home? Why would a child whose parents and grandparents were born in the US, spoke perfect English, didn’t have to apply for a US visa, green card, employment authorization, etc. be given any “experience” points? [/quote]

Experience factors aren’t based on race at all. ELL students do get experience factor points, so if the student in your scenario is an ELL student, they would benefit. Currently, Asian students with low SES or who are ELL are being left out. The new admissions process would help them.[/quote] My child is a TJ student, and all of the Asian TJ parents I’ve ever met spoke with an accent. [/quote]

Okay, and? My parents were immigrants and I was never in ESL. Just because somebody’s parents speak with an accent doesn’t mean the child is an English language learner. [/quote] We are immigrants, and our kids were never in ESL. However, we always speak our native language at home, so it was more difficult for our kids to learn and master English. We had no support system here (no extended family, no connections, no financial help from anyone) and not even green cards (have to renew US visas and driver’s licenses every year). Had no idea why AAP is so important until both kids were in the pool based on the test results and got rejected. So I think that our kids and others like them deserve the experience points much more than a child from a family who has lived in the US for centuries and has plenty of local relatives and friends for support. [/quote]

The experience factors are for children from underserved groups - groups of people who have been systemically left behind. That includes students on free and reduced priced lunch and ELL students. If your child falls into one of those categories, cool, they get the experience factor points. If your child doesn’t fall into one of those categories then what exactly are you complaining about? [/quote]

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