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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Arguing about a 4th tiered tourney lol. [/quote]

The tournament is a distraction. This is just one small example of who Pipeline is. Buyer beware. [/quote]

Well except I don't see that they did anything wrong.  It appears they stepped in, probably at the tournament's request, to cover a late cancellation.  They pulled togthere a team of mostly 2010 kids to play in a 2009 tournament and added a few of their own 2009 kids.  They misjudged the strength of the tournament and won their group games too easily and then withdrew to ensure that they didn't win the final.

Doesn't sound too bad to me.  And no - I am in no way affiliated with Pipeline.  Personally I'm not excited about the way they develop kids - I don't think they do a great job - but that's a whole different discussion.  [b]I've also observed poor behavior by a pipeline coach on one occasion out of the three or four times my DS' team has scrimmaged them[/b]. But it's hard to see that they did anything terribly wrong here.

Most of the accusations appear to be that they have a number of players who usually "play up" a year and that sometimes in tournaments they play those players back down a year which makes their teams stronger.  It's probably not the way I would do things were I running a club - but it appears they don't make any secret of it - and I can't see anything unethical about it.

Some parents of other clubs no doubt don't like it when their kids get beaten by strong teams who are playing multiple players who usually play a year up and are dominant when playing in their own age group.  But any parent with a kid who has played on a strong team knows that you sometimes encounter parents on opposing teams who get angry and claim that something or other is unfair.[/quote]

Can you share what kind of behavior and the age group for the boys you observed this?[/quote]

Dp, but literally read the thread.  It was girls, 2009 bracket.[/quote]

No, I was referring to the comments they made about the boys groups where he observed the bad behavior from a coach in scrimmages.  We are considering the program for our kids and was curious about the boys side.  This turned into a fight about 2009 girls like every other argument on this forum with crazy parents. [/quote]

I am literally sitting on a zoom call with my child’s pipeline coach who is telling his team that they are “about winning” and will be pulling kids from higher teams to win at the president and state’s cup. Additionally, your child could be cut from the team (as tryouts are prior to the tournament) prior to these tournament and replaced but you are expected to show up and travel but not promised any playing time. Yes, if you cut my kid, I am not traveling to east bumf’ck Midwest to support your team. Wtf. 
Sorry pipeline, not happening. [/quote]

If your kid is old enough for president’s cup, I think you will find most Baltimore clubs are focused on winning, playing time is unequal, etc.[/quote]

I would hope that most clubs don't pull players down from stronger or older teams though - just to win.  My DS plays for a very competitive club which could do this, but does not.  The 200x team is the 200x team and those players play for that team rain or shine.  Just because a couple of them are actually 200(x-1) birth year and could be used to make the 200(x-1) team virtually unbeatable doesn't mean they are used that way.  They aren't.  For various reasons - it wouldn't be fair to the kids on the 2000(x-1) team.  It's not even fair to the kids on the older team who are there because that is what the coaches decided was best for their development.

Clubs which consistently put themselves ahead of their customers are - in my view - making a big mistake.  In the end those clubs will struggle to attract and retain those customers.

All that said - I have no direct knowledge that Pipeline does this - only the rumors on this thread, and certainly no idea to what extent they do it, nor whether this is the only way that they put club before player or whether there are other questionable behaviors too.

So all in all - while this thread is interesting - it's just one thread.  And I doubt there's a club in existence which hasn't upset at least some parents with some piece of behavior which is less than perfect.[/quote]

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