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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is an interesting study that the NYT did regarding the income of student families at competitive universities.

This is Brown, but you can click in any of the schools and see their detailed stats.

The median parent income at Brown for the class of 2013 was $204,000. 19% were from families making over $630,000. 70% were from families making over $110,000. And these stats have changed very little since 1980.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/brown-university[/quote]

Wealthy families create stronger applicants. I don't think a single person would dispute that.[/quote]

So, then it effectively it works the other way around?  They know that the very strongest applicants will be rich, and to keep from being 100% rich kids, they give a certain percentage of poorer kids a “hook” for being first generation college, etc.  when they do this, they have capped their exposure to scholarship kids at that level.  So, for these schools, it’s not really “need blind,” it could be more accurately described as “need aware,” but only if you’re in the top % of poor kids that they’ve given a hook.  [/quote]

Forgive me, but that sounds like some serious nuclear-grade equivocation. And a classic "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy.

It's a self-selecting sample, yes, which permits them to be need blind for all applicants.

For it not to be, all criteria would have to be out the window, and they'd have to pick at random.  They have to pick the best on some criteria, and no matter what it is, the wealthy will be better prepared to meet it.

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