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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]I'm not talking about poverty, crime, or abandonment so much as a sense of gloom and despair.[/quote]

Weird sentence. These 5 things are very interconnecting.

Anyway, the Delta in AR is the saddest feeling place, outside of urban areas, that I've ever seen in the US. [/quote]

Its a subtle difference.[/quote]

Please elaborate. If you're OP, why is Utica creepy, bleak, and featuring a sense of gloom and despair, but not poverty, crime, and abandonment?[/quote]

Not looking to pick a fight. It's a vibe, a haunted-ness. S Central LA, ie, may be crime-riddled and impoverished -- yet still pulse with spirit and life. [/quote]

I'm not either. Sorry to come across that way. I think it's interesting to think about. And sad, of course.

Syracuse feels this way to me. So do many blocks in downtown Rochester, NY. Detroit. [/quote]

I was also going to say Syracuse. I visited Syracuse as part of my college search and got a dismal vibe.[/quote]

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