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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well, yeah, that was kind of my point.

-PP who does not believe that the DC Council's decision to ban MPD from using tear gas on peaceful protesters meaningfully impairs MPD's ability to respond to riots[/quote]

Completely agree. On the 6th the insurrectionists had bear spray and other chemical agents they used on law enforcement. If anything thats when law enforcement needs to be able to subdue the riot. Note several articles with first hand accounts from police that said [b]they did not want to start shooting the rioters as they didnt want to have a firefight since they assumed the rioters had guns. In contrast with summer when law enforcement used rubber bullets on peaceful protest because they knew the protesters did not have weapons. [/b]
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Also, the real issue was that MPD was playing catch-up from the beginning, because the riot started on the Capitol grounds, which are the jurisdiction of a different agency.  MPD responded on an ad hoc basis initially; whoever was nearby just ran over.  According to articles I've read, MPD was concerned about violence at these protests, but the Capitol Police are in charge of the Capitol.  MPD was on full deployment in the city on the 6th -- they called in NG to help with traffic control in order to free up more MPD officers to maintain order on the streets of DC.  And MPD was busy.  One of the articles in the WaPo article said they believed the crowd was armed because "we had been seizing guns all day."  The problem wasn't that MPD did or didn't have riot police on hand, the problem was that the Capitol Police were utterly unprepared.  They had staffed it like an ordinary day, not like the 1/2/3 in the line of succession would be in the building, and despite knowing that there was a high likelihood of violence (everyone knew there was a high likelihood of violence; the perpetrators had been planning it and bragging about it on social media for weeks).  MPD wasn't the first line of defense.  [/quote]

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