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                                There’s no good science on safety for middle and high school. None. When people say it’s safe there, they are talking with no evidence.

When people say it's not safe there, they are also talking with no evidence.

True enough. I always say there is no evidence that it is safe fir ages 11-18. There is evidence for 10 and under. I resent those who claim it is are fir middle and high. I’d rather they be honest and admit they have no evidence. The people I hear talking about wanting to go back at school board and PTA meetings and such assert that it’s perfectly safe. They are not well informed. What they mean is they want their kids to go back. There’s a difference between what you want and what scientific evidence supports. Though many no longer see that.

This is obviously not entirely true- but the noisiest parents about getting back to school are by and large parents of younger elementary school kids. The noisiest teachers about not ever going back are by and large high school teachers.

With complete reason! High schoolers are biologically adults. They spread it just like adults. They have 8 different classes they switch to, jobs, activities and sports. The risk of exposure at a high school level is LIGHT YEARS away from a 1st grade teacher with a truly cohorted class of 6 year olds. There is no comparison. Elementary can and should go back. 6-12 should not. This isn’t hard.

+1000. Very strange that APS hasn’t really recognized the differences in the potential harm to students and their inability to cohort them. Now they could have cohorted middle if they planned ahead in the fall. But they didn’t.

They have as has every other school district. It’s common knowledge. But rather than tell grades 6-12 parents “unfortunately your kids present much bigger risk to each other and staff of spreading and can’t be cohorted so you just remain distance” they will tie all k-12 together. It’s a lack of leadership. Be willing to say things that aren’t popular and will make people upset if they are the right thing. 6-12 is way riskier. Taking k-5 down with them when their risk is so much lower is stupid but absolutely no district seems to be willing to say younger & more vulnerable learners can go in and older ones cannot and in a panoramic thems the breaks.

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Yeah. I just don’t understand why this hasn’t been the plan from the start. Bring back K-5. Keep 6-12 home. That’s what I’d do. Apparently I’m not leadership material for VA public schools.[/b][b] [/quote]

I'm guessing that you don't have any high school students, who are trying to take APs from home and prep for college apps in this climate. Try telling these kids and parents that their being in-person isn't as important as K-5 being in person.
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We aren’t saying it’s less important for them to be in. We are saying it is less safe though. Yes, unfortunate. But truth. [/quote]

Also, flip the scenario. Let’s say CoVID had way bigger impact on little kids and they spread it easier and had worse effects. And high schoolers almost none. Would you really think it was fair to keep high schoolers out until the little kid cohort could do to safely with less risk? Of course you wouldn’t. You’d say if it isn’t safe for elementary keep them home but there’s no reason high school can’t go. Yet for some reason it’s perfectly okay to say elementary has to stay out even though we all know the real ones who will cause numbers to spike and increase case spread are high school. [/quote]

+1. I think ES should be in school and MS and HS should be home. I have 1 MS and 2 Hsers. It's not safe for them to be moving in crowded halls multiple times a day. [/quote]

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