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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it's entirely possible for someone to get in on the basis of an invented sob story that isn't  checked. Recently read essays for a scholarship  in my home town and people wrote about their dad the heroin addict and their identical twin that died and people in jail and refugees in camps and rafts and honestly a lot of it is compelling but we don't verify it and some of it could be fiction. The question is how many people are unscrupulous enough to invent a family tragedy or claim they have cancer etc. I think there are more sociopaths in our midst than we suspect.[/quote]

And you are pulling this right out of your bottom.  There is no evidence to believe what you believe.

[b]Not saying a kid can't lie on his essays -- but you forget about references, relationships with GCs, and you ignore how hard adcoms - particularly at the ivies where there is so much scrutiny [/b]-- work to admit the right kids.  I guarantee you not only can they spot BS after readying tens of thousands of essays, they know when they have to check and when they don't.  Takes one phone call.[/quote]

I'm the teacher who wrote about the student whose parents bribed and bullied to ensure their child got the grades and recs he needed (plus, they lied in the essay).  1.  It was very easy for them to pay the teachers and counsellors to do this.  This was an international school where the US/UK teachers received plus packages and the "local hires" received the equivalent of $500 per month, and local hires taught some core subject classes.  I am sure there were some US/UK teachers who accepted the bribe money in that case as well, and I am sure there are also teachers in the US who would give grades or recs for enough money.  2.  No, they didn't check to confirm the facts in the essay.  I don't know how they could have done this, or what they might have expected for confirmation of this story.  3.  The father was a high level diplomat, and I know he had his colleagues supplying reference as well.

The student was high average.  He was also mean and disrespectful to teachers and peers, and participated in no extracurriculars in high school.  His father got him one internship at the embassy during a summer, and he quit after a week.  There were no hooks, and no, I don't think applying from overseas is a hook at all.  I have been teaching in international schools for almost 15 years, and every year many students apply to US universities.  Ivy acceptances seem to be rarer among these students than they were among the students I taught back when I lived in the US.  [/quote]

And yet they wanted him, so what are you missing?  They wanted him over other kids.  Are you suggesting he put lies in his essay that got him accepted over others with all else being equal?  And you are not being honest yourself because you did not read the essay, now did you?

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY TOOK THAT KID BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE HIM.  And you will never understand what the reasons were.  To suggest it was because he put something extraordinary yet unverifiable in an essay you didn't even read is -- well, it speaks for itself.

Let it go.[/quote]

Not pp. Looks like reading is not your strength. The pp mentioned that the parent sent her an email with the essay attached and came next day to offer money to her to edit it.[/quote]

Oh you mean 5 pages back?

Yeah, I had to go look it up.  And yes, it is there, and no, I had not read that.  For you to insinuate I lack comprehension because I didn't read and associate a fact 5 pages back makes you kind of petulant and dishonest, don't you think? (hint: yes it does)

It also does not change the fact that PP has no idea why they admitted that kid, and never will.  Another poster pointed out his dad is a diplomat and may have friends who are patrons or trustees of Brown.  It doesn't really matter either way, because the things that matter are this:

- Getting admitted to an ivy with mediocre stats by lying on your essay is not a regular thing, and you should not try it or be bitter about it.
- A teacher bitterly revealing these "facts" and opinions after admission indicates a bitter, misguided, and flawed person who should not be in that profession and cannot be trusted.

This has no bearing on whether or not this student deserved admission to Brown.  I don't know and neither do you.

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