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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is some hyperbole in this thread.

What I think would be a fair criticism of Dan is-

-he drastically favors East county to west.  That means among other things he is anti transit except public transportation.  The reality is a lot of us in Gaithersburg and beyond depend on cars.  We all cant afford to just live in DTSS.   Sure, changing the zoning would help (for FUTURE people), but some of us made the decision to sprawl by sheer neccessity.

-He generally refuses to even consider the opinions of people who do not agree with his far left views, across the board.

-Not every neighborhood wants tons of density.   [b]Those of us who chose to move farther out of city centers for more land, more space, etc- dont neccesarily want tons of density right in our backyard.[/b]  Again- it's fine that he does, but he seems to never consider the viewpoints of those who dont agree with him in lockstep.

BTW- the idea from an above poster that Marc Elrich somehow isnt progressive *enough* is borderline scary. He has at times referred to himself a socialist for godsakes. [/quote]

Great - than you alone should pay for widening 270 AND all the downstream roads that will also need to be widened to accommodate the greater volumes of traffic.  I take (took) Metro into work and barely use my car and my down county neighborhood is overwhelmed by up county cars everyday making it less livable so you can at least pay for your stupid choice to live in the hell of G'burg.[/quote]

This^^^^ times infinity.

We don't want to subsidize your housing and transportation choices.[/quote]

Where are all the little people supposed to live to support you......

I swear urbanists are some of the most stuck up classists I know and they call themselves progressive

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By "little people" you are probably referring to low income people, most of whom live in Eastern MoCo or PG and not up county in sprawling car oriented suburbs.  Those of us who actually care about these people have been advocating for better transit (the Purple Line) and schools (more equitable re-districting which is something Dan is big on) so nice try but no subsidizing up county living does almost nothing for "little people" or low income people.

Lower Montgomery County really is not that dense and based on prices to date at least there appears to be a lot of unmet demand for housing near transit.  Dense and affordable senior housing, for example, would create  more turnover in close in suburban homes so younger families could move into those homes and enjoy shorter commutes.  But the supply isn't adequate which means higher prices so seniors aren't going to ditch their paid off home for a condo of similar value that eliminates their liquidity and that then reduces the turnover keeping the prices on single family homes artificially high.

Montgomery County to its credit does have some good ideas for densification of the Rockville Pike near its Metro stations but Prince Georges still has not been successful at adding housing near Metro but all of this is undermined if the state pours billions into widening 270 and other roads and artificially subsidizes up-county living.[/quote]

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