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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here - My kid got it at the end of her test and just showed me.

We are in a W feeder school so I'm guessing it's going to be unlikely that my kid gets into a magnet MS.[/quote]

If you're not at a CES even if you're at a W-feeder school, that increases your chance vastly.[/quote]

This is not true. I think what you are trying to claim is that if you are not at a school that houses a CES.[/quote]

This is absolutely true.  We know of twins.  One (female) at their local school and one (male) at a CES.  The one at the CES had higher schools on all tests, grades, etc and did not get in while the one at the local school did.  Both would have gone to the same middle school.  [/quote]

You don’t seem to understand. If the twins were at the SAME school and one was in the CES and the other was not you’d be able to compare. But it sounds like they were at different schools with different feeder patterns and different demographics. So you are wrong. [/quote]

I think you are the one who is confused. They use the home middle school to compare so they would have been ranked on the same "list." The things that are different are gender and the fact they wanted to take kids from every elementary. She must have been one of the top scorers in her elementary. The admits from our home school were kids who just missed CES admission (wait listed) or turned down the CES (but admitted) for 4th/5th.[/quote]

Look, lady, tell me how two kids would fare with the same scores at the same school where one is in the CES program and the other is not. That’s the only way to compare to see if the CES makes a difference. My own kid was not in the CES and he scored higher than other kids who were AT THE SAME SCHOOL as him and WERE IN THE CES. He got in because his scores were higher not because he wasn’t in the CES.[/quote]

You need to calm down. No one is insulting your child. This is the reality of the MCPS system. No one has any idea if your child scored higher or not, unless they work at MCPS. I don't know how you could possibly claim to know this information.[/quote]

MAP scores are posted on the screen so other kids can see it and kids talk.  Parents talk too. There is nothing that special of CES but your kid is with all smart kids and very segregated.[/quote]

If your child was at a CES I would not be so skeptical that your child knows the range of MAP scores of the other kids at the CES. But your child was not at a CES, has not been testing in the same room as the CES kids. Second, I know some kids shared their Cogat scores with each other but it is really just a handful and who knows if those scores are accurate.

I do think the 3rd grade test might miss some very bright kids. Wasn't it just a screener rather than a full Cogat? So it's certainly possible a kid at a regional CES school but not in the program might score higher than other CES kids. It's also possible a kid might have had a bad day in 3rd grade and then did better in 5th for testing or that she or he began to blossom later. Who knows.

What is absurd is your absolute insistence that your child definitely scored higher than all the other kids in the CES to gain admission. Scored higher on what test? Why don't you post your child's scores and people here can weigh in? Other PPs are being very open about their child's scores and comparing. Let's compare yours.

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You’re missing the kids who joined in fourth or fifth and were never considered for the CES.  MCPS has been clear about the criteria and they do not expect students who were at a CES to score higher than those who are not. There are other factors at play.

FWIW, they absolutely did the right thing in selecting my kid. He’s been an outlier since he taught himself to read at age 3. MCPS curriculum for fifth was a disaster for him. They weren’t meeting his needs at all. It was clear to anyone who has ever taught him that he would be a strong candidate for this type of program and also clear that he didn’t have a solid peer group at the same level at his elementary. So for us, the system worked as it should have done. [/quote]

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