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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Have they provided *any* rationale for this, other than just being dickwipes? [/quote]

[b]Nope! Dickwipes indeed![/quote]

Isn't the rationale that this was essentially a pre-existing rule?  That is, you can't get a visa to go to an online school.  This is consistent with that approach but it is applying to high profile "good" schools, not the existing on-line only schools.

Doesn't make it any better, of course, but that seems to be the reasoning.   Treat Harvard like U Phoenix.[/b]

And I don't think the quote above applies to hybrid schools that then shut down because of COVID.  There, the student has the VISA and is properly enrolled then all shifts online.  I don't think there is any guidance there, which is a big problem for those trying to make plans.

TO be clear, I think this sucks but I see the thought process.[/quote]

Do you not understand that this affects students who are already enrolled in and already attending these schools that were in-person and now are forced by the pandemic to go partly or wholly online?

It's one thing to say, you're enrolling in what you know, when you enroll, is an all-online program so you have to do it from your home country (if you can, which some cannot).

It's a totally different thing to say, you're a sophomore at college X and have spent a year and a half on campus, or you're a rising senior with an eye on grad school... but now you need to move back to your country ASAP, or we'll kick you out.

Putting courses online is not the operating model of these colleges like it is for the University of Phoenix you so blithely cite. Their model is entirely based around in-person instruction and interaction. [u]They are being forced by unprecedented circumstances to improvise a new, temporary model of instruction which they do NOT intend or want to continue as their ongoing mode of operations. [/u] Get it? Forced, unprecedented, temporary. But this idiotic application of the existing rule against visas for all-online schooling will devastate not just the colleges but more importantly a lot of students.

I think people like you see this and think, so what? Rich, elite schools like Harvard have to do without some international student cash. No big deal. Well, it's not just the Harvards affected, and as posters above have said repeatedly, international students are not piggy banks like many people assume they are, coming here to pay full ride.

Maybe you don't know any international students. My DC does. They are terrified that all the work they've put into their college studies so far is plunging right down the drain. They can't know today whether they'll be told at any time this month, next month, whenever, they have to leave or face deportation. They did everything right, got the correct visas, kept their status legal and iin order, and due to a virus beyond anyone's control, they will be screwed, for life in some cases. Some cannot drag out their educations over a few more semesters or years as they fight to get visas, transportation, etc. to come back, if they have to leave the country. [/quote]

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