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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To quote a good friend: my child would not want to attend a school where their race is a strike against them.

Also, on interview it will be apparent.

Last but not least, don’t you want your child to be proud of who they are?  Dońt teach them to deny their heritage.

For all of these reasons, my child marked Asian on her applications.

(If anything, I think it helped her. She was looking at SLAC’s and many of them struggle with diversity)[/quote]

I don't think this has anything to do with not being proud of their heritage.  It's about avoiding the Asian penalty in schools that in effect have one.  Your DD's school clearly didn't have one.  Other school in effect do.[/quote]

But you are literally advising them to pretend, on paper, that they are a different race. You are saying deny who you are. I would never advise my child (who is chinese) to do that. But then again, I put their self esteem over rankings and status. [/quote]

The thing is that if admissions offices were not hopelessly racist, there would be no need for them to know the applicant's race.[/quote]

You are hopelessly deaf to the argument that colleges seek diverse communities. Hopelessly.

But then again, you probably think your kid is a failure if they get a B and attend anything but an Ivy league college. We all have our blind spots.[/quote]
Idiot, when you discriminate against Asian Americans and force them to get higher scores just to get in, it will lead to more high-stats Asians getting into these colleges rather than more 'well-rounded' or lower scoring Asians (that perhaps you kid could compete with).

Employers and grad-schools are not stupid. At this point they have a clear preference for Asian Americans because they've realized that many public state schools have Asian American students that have far more raw intelligence than white kids in the Ivies.

Ultimately it hurts everyone involved, and white American students will be discriminated against in the job market if they are deserving of the spot - simply because the employer realizes they received an undeserved helping hand in getting into college. This already happens with African Americans. [/quote]

Talking about one racial group having more "raw intelligence" than another is about THE most racist belief you can hold. Game over. You win (for being the world class racist)[/quote]
Who is saying that one racial group has more raw intelligence than another racial group?

I'm saying employers believe that Asian American kids from public universities have higher raw intelligence than White American kids from Ivies. This is not a difficult concept to understand.

Ivies signal intelligence to some extent.
Usually, a student from an Ivy would be considered to be more intelligent/capable than a student from a public university.

This is no longer true for Asian American students vs. white students. Because the Ivies have discriminated against Asian students, a lot of these students end up going to Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan etc. An employer views the signal of an Asian American from these public universities to be much higher than a white student from the Ivies (especially due to legacy preferences, donor preferences, sports scholarship, etc.)

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This is crazy talk.  As an employer I would view an Asian applicant good at rote tasks.  I consider AA, white, hispanic and Asian to be of equal intelligence. Asians I would consider better at rote tasks.[/quote]
That only proves yourself to be an idiot. Asians have excelled throughout STEM degrees, which are anything but rote - they require  problem solving.

But of course, you seem like the typical useless administrator/bureaucrat so being an idiot is to be expected. 
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If you look at MIT an institution recruiting highly intelligent, high achieving and creative students 41% of their student body is Asian, 42% white, 10% AA 14% Hispanic 11% international. The total exceeds 100 because of students who fit into more than one category (eg multiracial students). Anyway MIT obviously does not think that Asian students are mostly good at “rote” tasks. I have no doubt that is what some employers think but it is simply not true and it is rank racism. [/quote]

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