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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We have been getting together with one other family and my parents. Two of us have been going to stores (one from each family). We are all aware of the risk and willing to undertake it. For us the risk reduced social contact and support outweighs the virus risk. If anyone wasn't comfortable we would stop. [/quote]

This makes sense - pairing up with one other family.  [/quote]

Yeah, except she mentioned three families - hers, her parents, and friends.  But only two of them have been going to stores?  And how often?  And how do you know how many packages the other family has gotten?  Or your parents?  Or how many times someone from one of those families has stopped to chat with a neighbor while grabbing mail, etc.  Look, everyone is going to slip up at some point, whether it's getting close to other people, making an unnecessary trip to the store, forgetting to wash their hands after bringing in the mail.  Those are acceptable risks within a family because they kind of have to be.  But when you triple the number of families you're coming into contact with, you're also tripling the number of contacts you are all having.  You say you are all aware of the risk but I don't think you're calculating it correctly.  Ask yourself how you would really feel if your parents got sick.  You can't backpedal much at that point because it's too late.[/quote]

My parents have had no contact except with my family. They live way out in the countryside and haven't left their property since March 12th. They don't get deliveries and don't have neighbors close enough that they would ever run into. We have also had zero deliveries in the last month. We go to the store once every two weeks. Our friends also go once every two weeks alternating with us - we pick up some things for the other family if they are low and I do all the shopping for my parents. I wear a mask to the store and change clothes and shower when I get home - mostly to protect my parents.  Our friend doesn't do that and she has more contact with neighbors than we do as they live in a very high density area but she isn't in direct contact with my parents. It works for us. We are careful and know the risk. My parents would gladly be out seeing others, they are the least concerned about risk of any of us!

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I really don’t think you understand how this all works.  You are hanging out with a family that is also going to the store AND not taking a ton of precautions AND is having contact with their other neighbors.  It doesn’t matter that your parents don’t go anywhere or don’t have direct contact with your friends, because they are being potentially exposed to the virus through you.  You are not being careful or protecting your parents, since you are spending time with them while also spending time with people who are spending time with other people and not being careful.  You aren’t actually social distancing, and your risks aren’t minimal.   How do you not understand this?[/quote]

It totally matters that her parents aren't seeing anyone else.  They're not a closed network, but they've reduced contact to almost nothing.

It's stupid that people think there's no difference between hanging out with 2 people vs 100 people.  There's a massive difference!
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Her parents are spending time with people who are having direct contact with people who are not limiting contacts or taking precautions at stores.   Do you really not see how that is a problem?  Again, there are a lot of people here who don’t seem to understand how this works.  [/quote]

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