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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To in-state private school families, it generally goes like this below. Many families with high stat kids choose private tier 2s over huge Michigan for undergrad studies. Paying out-of-state tuition at Indiana is a way to flaunt your family money over sending your average stats kid to Michigan State. Tier 1: Notre Dame, Northwestern, Duke, USC, Ivies Tier 2: Michigan, Kalamazoo, Hillsdale, Albion Tier 3: Indiana, Hope, Miami-OH, Dayton, Loyola-Chicago Tier 4: Michigan State, U of Detroit-Mercy Tier 5: the rest, as all the rest are basically open admit[/quote] Do you rate Albion above Alma? How about Adrian? Olivet? Hillsdale I can see. It has a national rep, drawing 2/3ds of its students from out-of-state. Kids actually work hard there. Lots of required courses. Tuition is kept low, because students can't use taxpayer-subsidized loans to pay their tuition. UM-Ann Arbor pads its coffers by drawing upwards of half its student body from out-of-state (and these out-of-staters pay big bucks to attend a sports-obsessed factory). Indiana and Miami University fit the movie ideal of the perfect campus setting. Isn't Kalamazoo a hippie school? Who wants to freeze his ass off at MSU? Why go to Detroit-Mercy when Wayne State is available? And Wayne State is closer to the DIA.[/quote] You can sort of tease out LAC health and status via endowment: Hillsdale is over $500M. Albion is around or over $200M, ditto Kalamazoo and Hope. The other LACs in Michigan are pretty broke and at risk of closure when it's predicted a wave of LACs across the nation go under within the next 10 years. As for why Hillsdale, Albion, Kalamazoo and even Hope over MSU and even University of Michigan? Michigan isn't for everyone, especially for undergrad studies. It's gigantic, has a party school rep, so much red tape, huge bureaucracy, and sports obsession turns people away. Also, private school families tend to prefer their kids attend private colleges. Also, in case you all missed it, Michigan State has been in the news for like 5 years now for hiding sexual assaults with the school doctor and football and basketball players. Title 9 violations. Nearly a $1 billion judgment against the school. Their financial situation can't be good at moment. They've opened up admissions to anyone in order to pay off the $600M bond they had to take out.[/quote]
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