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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Clearly it's inappropriate. I'm not sure if criminal, more sloppy incompetence. But it's not impeachable, and there is zero chance for the Senate to convict. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being an impeachable high crime and 1 being jaywalking, this is maybe a 6 or 7.[/quote] The term "high crime" refers to the position of the person doing the crime, not to the type of crime. That said, "bribery" is specified in the Constitution as an impeachable offense. Both by the modern US legal definition and by the definition of the term "bribery" as the authors of the Constitution understood it, the current president and vice president appear to have committed the offense. Seriously, of perjury about a blowjob is impeachable, how is this not impeachable? What would constitute an impeachable offense in your mind?[/quote] Good question. Treason. True bribery where the president is personally enriched (Illinois governor selling Senate seats). Nixon level obstruction. Not sleazy incompetence like this.[/quote] 1) Bribery can be for political gain, and 2) trump has been using the presidency as a cash cow to enrich himself and his kids anyway. [/quote] Please. All presidents do this. Really, all politicians do this. Take a hard look at some DC politicians. They are all guilty. Democrats and Republicans. [/quote] Did someone make you a flowchart? When you get backed in to a corner, progress to "everyone does it" excuse? It is like we are seeing the results of a flowchart. A: It was bad, but not that bad. B: No, it was actually really, really bad. A: It was bad, but only because of incompetence, not INTENTIONALLY a crime. Some things are worse. B: It was still a crime. A: Everyone else has done it! :roll: [/quote] This is the OP. That's not my argument.[/quote] This is the script. You have to follow the script. I left out "but the process is unfair! No defense attorney! Not letting the defense call witnesses!" part but this is the basic script. [/quote] So if someone doesn't agree with you then they are following a script? Got it. It's a big deal to [b]remove a democratically elected president[/b], and people are going to take it seriously, examine political motives, and many are going to legitimately find, in complete good faith, that this is bad but not a high crime. [/quote] I think that's an open question, Vlad.[/quote]
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