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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If Biden, Abrams.

If Warren, Beto. (possible dent in texas)[/quote]

But she needs more black support - that's the thing
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So Abrahms.  I’m all for the two woman ticket. If you need a guy, Booker. [/quote]

Why does the race or ethnicity of the pick matter?  Shouldn't we go with the best person for the job?  [/quote]
 :roll: 
Why are you assuming Abrams wouldn’t be the best? Why, after around 90 white male POTUSes and VPOTUSes shouldn’t we be able to have women and minorities represented? [/quote]

Your last phrase implies they are Affirmative Action candidates.  There are hundreds of very well qualified white women in Congress governorships  who actually won ejections and who better qualified than Abrams,   They will never be considered because minority representation is the goal.   [/quote]
Let me get this straight: any female or minority pick is necessarily an affirmative action hire in your brain? I’m going to let you sit with that for a few. I’m sure you think every white man is of course the best and most qualified.

(Pssst. You got some strong unconscious biases against women and minorities.)[/quote]

Not at all.   You  are the one who said:  “shouldn’t we be able to have women and minorities represented.”   That is the basis for Affirmative Action.
Perhaps you meant:  “shouldn’t we be able to have women and minorities compete.”   [/quote]

Oh come on.  You pick a VP to balance the ticket.  Trump got Pence to secure the evangelicals. Obama got Biden to make the good ole boy GOP happy, etc.

The VP has like two main purposes.  Balance the ticket, and vote in tie breakers in the Senate. Anything else is gravy.

Pence was running Indiana into the ground and about to lose his next election. But, he made the Christian Right happy.

There are two coalitions who really need to feel heard right now in the Dem party. Woman and POC. You can’t win without them.  And there will be a revolt if it’s two old white men.  Biden would have to get a woman.   Especially given his issues with women.  AA less important, because he’s riding Obama’s coat tails.  Warren would have to get a man, because men have fragile egos. And an AA, because the AA base doesn’t trust her.   I think she should choose Obama myself.   :lol:

But don’t pretend Rs don’t also balance their ticket.   It may not be based on gender or skin color. So it’s religion, or a geographic region, or something.

It isn’t pandering. Or affirmative action. It’s reality. You want you base to be as big as possible. [/quote]

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