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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Everybody is getting their panties in a twist about health insurance costs, but what we actually need is a national discussion about health care costs. Why is it so expensive to have any health care procedure done here, especially when compared to the rest of the world? We can moan about health insurance, but until health care costs are brought under control, nothing will change. Bring down health care costs, and people will not be going bankrupt. Insurance should be for "major stuff" like cancer treatment, surgery, etc. We should not be using it for checkups, flu shots, etc. However, we can't pay for these things out of pocket right now because they are priced too high. [/quote]

+ a million.

Obamacare ignored this basic fact, creating an even less affordable healthcare system.[/quote]

+1. Yes! And no one ever wants to discuss this. Until this is addressed, all of these plans are just cost-shifting with different winners and losers. [/quote]

Correct. But the legislators, lobbyists, healthcare, insurance and pharma execs don’t want it fixed. And so it won’t be.[/quote]

Look what happened when Democrats proposed a very small, common-sense way to tackle a small piece of the problem: reimburse doctors for their time discussing advanced directives with Medicare patients during routine office visits so that we're not spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on treatment that neither the patient nor the doctor think are appropriate.

Republicans jumped on it and called it "death panels."  It didn't make any sense, but it didn't stop a significant percentage of the population from imagining a panel of bureaucrats deciding who gets treatment, despite the fact that it did nothing of the sort.

There are a lot of reasons costs are high.  Part of it is unnecessary treatment, and continuing treatment well beyond what makes rational sense.  That's going to need to be tackled politically at some point, but before we get there we probably need the American public to mature to a point where we can have a serious discussion about this problem.
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So much this!! Americans seems to want “the best best healthcare, no stone unturned, top of the line everything- regardless of what makes sense” yet don’t want to sacrifice other things (spending $ Etc). Not only that, they force ALL of us to pay for the above for EVERYONE even if it doesn’t make sense (based on age/quality of life). We need to have these conversations but people just bury their heads in the sand. They want absolutely everything done for their own family member but don’t want to pay for it. [/quote]

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