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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]MTO had no effect on the labor market outcomes or social program participation of adults, but improved adults’ mental health as well as several important aspects of physical health.?MTO improved outcomes for female youth, particularly their mental health, but on balance had deleterious effects on male youth risky behavior. ?MTO had no detectable effects on the math and reading achievement of children. 
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Seems like a good program, even if it didn't increase scores on standardized tests.

https://www.nber.org/mtopublic/MTO%20Overview%20Summary.pdf[/quote]
+1 mental health of parents and children have long term positive results. [/quote]
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No educational benefits[/b], no effect on the labor market outcomes, and a deleterious effect on male risky behavior.  The gains were all small as well.  In reality, nothing much changed, even after great expense.  This thread started talking about the achievement gap, and a large intervention plan showed "no detectable effects on the math and reading achievement of children."

The just did a huge study on pre-kindergarten in Tennessee where they randomly assigned some kids to pre-k.  The kids actually ended up doing worse in later grades after a small boost in K and 1st.   https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/education/2015/09/28/study-some-pre-k-programs-effective-but-not-over-time/72965950/

Honestly, if these issues were as easy to fix as posters here seem to believe, we would have already fixed them.[/quote]

No. [b]No increase in standardized test scores[/b]. That's not the same thing.

Nobody said the issues are easy to fix. [/quote]

Great, if test-score disparities don't signal educational disparities then we're done!  Just claim that everyone is doing great, despite the differences in objective measures and call it a day.  [/quote]

Disparities in test scores signal educational disparities.

Test scores are not the only outcome measure for education.

Both of these statements are true.[/quote]

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