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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I hear you, within reason.  But [b]too many needy low SES classmates in large classes[/b] and all the supplementing can become oppressive.  I didn't mind it in the lower grades, but we're not planning to stay at our EotP DCPS for 5th grade.  I'll leave it to the avowedly pro-integrationist to supplement like mad open-endedly.[/quote]

The research that shows that high SES students don't have worse outcomes from being in integrated classes indicates that there is a tipping point at around, if I recall correctly, 20% of the class.  Beyond that point, if I understand the research right, outcomes for low SES kids suffer, although outcomes for high SES kids don't suffer as one might expect, likely due to parents supplementing outside of the classroom.

Also, some of that research may have been done before the current inclusion model for special ed, which puts an added burden on classroom teachers and could shift that tipping point.

The existence of this tipping point suggests to me that just integrating DC schools -- spreading high SES kids evenly throughout DC schools won't do much to improve outcomes for low SES DC kids.  To do get a benefit, you'd need to include VA and MD schools.  It does, however, suggest that OOB access for a limited number of kids to high SES schools (mostly WOTP) is helpful to the low SES OOB kids and probably one of the best realistic interventions available, although the same selection bias issue will be there as for charter kids.

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And this is really the crux of the issue. There is only two middle schools and one high school that are able to pull this off. What is the city doing to re-create another area like this in the city? The answer is nothing due to the politics involved, which is why I know the city isn't serious about tackling this issue. If the city could create one more strong feeder pattern K-12, then maybe in 10 years, they could create a third one. [/quote]

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