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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hey MAGAts, here's a tip for you:

Practical, sensible, HUMANE immigration policy (which is what literally every Democrat in the public eye supports) is not a call for "open borders."  You're being lied to when you're told otherwise, and you're lying when you parrot that line.[/quote]
It’s all just emotional drivel, you Dimwit. Open borders don’t work. They hurt Americans and legal immigrants. It opens up the country to the crimes of human trafficking, terrorism, illegal trade. It is impossible to vet who is coming here with open borders.[/quote]
*Whoosh*

I'll try again: Any claim that any serious person wants open borders is a LIE.

Allowing families to stay together is NOT supporting "open borders".
Allowing temporary entry pending an asylum hearing is NOT supporting "open borders".
Providing a path to citizenship for certain undocumented aliens who meet a very specific set of standards is NOT supporting "open borders".
Opposing policies that are ill-conceived, impractical, ineffective and inhumane is NOT supporting "open borders".
Opposing that moronic wall is NOT supporting "open borders".

You can have border security without cruelty, demagoguery and bigotry.  That's not "supporting open borders," it's simply refusing to be complete and utter assholes about it.[/quote]

It is not cruelty and bigotry. We don’t have the resources to take care of the world’s economic migrants who cross the border. If we import enough of the third world, we will become the third world ourselves. We can offer support to make other countries better, so that they don’t have to leave. We can’t even help our own poor, and illegal immigration certainly takes resources away from them. I would like to stop corporate welfare and needless wars, and give this money to better our infrastructure, schools, and institutions that help the poor. Even if that happens, the money is not unlimited and nothing is free. The rich will find a way not to pay taxes. Jeff Bezos didn’t pay any. It is the middle class who will have to pay for all this virtue-signaling insanity.[/quote]
I don't disagree, necessarily, with any of that except your first sentence.  The policies implemented by this administration are indisputably cruel and inhumane, and this administration is clearly driven by bigotry in its choices.[/quote]

Well, I would argue that the cruelty comes from people who encourage illegal immigration.  That was NOT Trump.

People see illegal immigration as a very viable option for economic success in the US.  If that was not the case, people would not be coming.

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Nobody "encourages" illegal immigration, you dope.  Peoples' circumstances encourage illegal immigration, and no bullshit wall or jackboot detention policy is going to change peoples' circumstances.[/quote]

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