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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm not surprised if insurance companies would want to get involved. $11 million is a high figure, especially for a bakery in a small town.

But the insurance company wanting to get involved doesn't mean Oberlin is innocent. At all. So don't fall into the trap of thinking that somehow it means Oberlin wasn't at fault. The insurance companies are only involved to minimize the financial damages the college will have to pay to the bakery. That is their role and it is not to provide evidence of Oberlin's innocence.

The college's board of trustees should also be reviewing the actions of certain administrators and leaders at the college and why they behaved in the way they are alleged to have behaved without first doing a due process review. And even if the college had sincere reasons to come to the defense of the students who shoplifted and started the fight with the bakery staff, it is also quite clear that the college administrators also encouraged the larger community to directly boycott and interfere with the bakery's operations instead of letting the matter be investigated properly first. That the college dean also specifically asked the bakery to not refer a crime (however petty it was) to the police but to notify the college first, and attempted to withhold evidence (the fake ID) is very much overstepping their responsibilities and implying that the college is above the law in that community. When your local police force has to threaten legal action to get the college to give up the evidence is very damning.

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What you are saying is Oberlin crossed its line over zealously protecting its students. Let me know if Oberlin is involved in sexually abusing students under its care (Catholic Church), get caught up in the latest college admissions scandal, including bribery, fraud, and racketeering conspiracy (USC, Stanford, UCLA, UTexas, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Yale, U of San Diego) - or if it has ever accused innocent people of rape and sodomy (Duke.)
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Eh? What is this? The subject here isn't the Catholic church. And if you paid attention to the college admissions scandal, the scandal was between certain college employees (the coaches) and parents. The colleges themselves as an entity are not being charged in the suits. These college employees will surely be disciplined appropriately (loss of job for starters). Using this example logically concludes that the Oberlin administrators should also lose their jobs and be prosecuted, but I suspect that wasn't your intent. And I'm pretty sure the Duke situation refers to the Duke lacrosse team and you might want to read up on that particular case before using it as an example.

Oberlin students pleaded *guilty* to theft and assault. I'm not sure why the college feels the need to protect those students in the manner they did. Logically they should have investigated the matter first before reaching a conclusion, which they did not. And the college administration also attempted to interfere with local police investigations on a matter that happened on non-college property and involved non-college affiliated businesses.

That you had to jump to some weird straw man claims involving other universities shows how weak Oberlin's position is here. You know you've lost your argument when you have to resort to claims that at least Oberlin isn't as bad as what other schools may have done. It also makes me wonder what other student crimes Oberlin hid from the public. After all, your reference to the Catholic church scandal does suggest this. [/quote]

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