Reply to no trolling - comparing MoCo vs WOTP DCPS schools

Forum Index » DC Public and Public Charter Schools

Reply to "no trolling - comparing MoCo vs WOTP DCPS schools"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't know if needs are being met.  
I have two kids at Deal who have received all A's and 100% in many classes some quarters (as in they haven't missed a point on anything the entire quarter in math or ELA).  They have received 5's on all PARCCs they have taken since 3rd grade.  They're learning but they certainly aren't being challenged.  The school does test-in for math and so they're both up 2 years (Algebra 1 in 7th and on).  I'm not sure if they're G&T or not but they're certainly maxing out the Deal curriculum with very little effort and it was the same at our JKLM feeder school.  Deal has not offered they any other enrichment and I'd put them in the top 10% of their respective classes (about 10% of the kids perform at this level--in terms of grades, etc).

I have a neighbor whose kid is definitely gifted (the type of kid doing Algebra independently at home in 4th grade) and while Deal has allowed the kid to accelerate in math (Algebra in 6th, double math classes in 7th), they haven't done anything in other subjects.  However, the family is much happier at Deal than at the JKLM which did absolutely nothing for this kid despite quite a few meetings with the school.  Or should I say, they did a few "pull outs" for more advanced problem sets in math but nothing at all like a true gifted and talented program and certainly no different or expanded curriculum.   [/quote]

Thanks for your honesty.  Parents who think their kids are being challenged to their fullest potential in DCPS are kidding themselves.  Just like they are deluding themselves saying this and this is not widely known or not being touted but equivalent to G & T.  All subjective stuff.

I was in G & T in elementary and tracked at the highest level throughout school.  Tracking, grouping kids who are performing at the highest level, and teaching a very in depth and accelerated curriculum pushes them to perform better and reach their full potential.  Giving an individual child a harder assignment so they are being “challenged” will not have the same effect.  This applies to elementary and is even more important in middle and high school.

Unlike DC and Deal, neighboring states such as VA and MD, the middle schools offer multi-level courses for ALL subjects, all.  So do their high schools.  This is tracking.  This is how you group the best and brightest together, and this is how you are able to accelerate a curriculum and learning.  As the students rise up to the challenge, the teacher can easily modify it and raise the difficulty ceiling further.  You cannot do this when you don’t have all these students together and have varying levels of students in a class.

[/quote]

So in DCPS, everyone just takes the same class/is given the same material? There are no advanced/honors or remedial classes?[/quote]

Basically in a nutshell yes.  Maybe math track here and there.  There are a few test in high schools.  Wilson high school is the track for Deal after middle school.  They have regular courses, honors, and AP.  Now leadership there I heard wants to remove the regular course and have honors for all in 9th - 11th so kids 3 and 4 grade levels apart are in the same class.  [/quote]

No. Elementary schools differentiate; middle schools are either IB (so no tracking needed - though there is some differentiation), or they do have tracks (eg. Hardy and the cluster MS on the Hill), and the high schools all have different levels.

Why on DCPS threads are people who say negative things thanked for "honesty," and people who give positive facts and opinions are dismissed?[/quote]

NO, many elementary schools DO NOT differentiate.  The top ones do not.  I have had 3 kids at Janney (2 alums, 1 there now).  They don't differentiate.  They teach everyone on one level.  Deal will differentiate for math and language.  Wilson has "honors for all" for 9th, 10th, and 11th.  So one level of classes in those grades now except for for APs. 
STOP MAKING CRAP UP!!![/quote]

Here is what we have seen EOTP.

ECE is OK but majority of parents bail DCPS elementary by 3rd or 4th grade. Capital hill elementary parents may stay till 5th.
No one is staying in DCPS for middle. A small number of parents stay to go to Stuart Hobson in Capital Hill. They have honors but it’s not selective or rigorous. All the kids from middle class families get in.
No one at all is staying for high school unless they get into the test in high schools.

IB curriculum at EOTP middle school is a joke. No one is sending their kids to the middle schools. As to the non test in DCPS high schools, no way is anyone going, and I don’t know what levels they have that you are talking about but even if they do, it’s just for show. No real rigor.

Above is the deal. An outlier few families may keep their kid in middle and high school that’s it. Most are not willing to sacrifice their child’s education in a school system that refuses to meet the needs of the higher performing kids. I agree with PP who said potential resources are diverted away from them to close the achievement gap by trying to bring the lower kids up.[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics